Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

[mmc]

 

[Docwaukee]

[HanfordGuy]

8 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I bet perry fucked up the meeting time and missed it. 

There was a mattress in the 3rd lane of the 405.

[HanfordGuy]

6 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

No, his name is Rasiel. 

[Chuck]

I'm not a fan of Chris Taylor. I hope the remainder of the money we have to spend is spent on another starting pitcher that can log quality innings and one more reliever. 

Let Wade, Rengifo and B. Davis fight for the starting SS job...or sign Freddy Galvis on a one year deal until one of our own internal guys are ready in 2022. 

 

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, mmc said:

Hey @Jeff FletcherI know that teams and players won't be negotiating or finalize contracts while under lockdown but are teams still allowed to discuss or finalize trades?

Nope

[BTH]

@Jeff Fletcherany idea what time Minasian's press conference is at?

[Second Base]

I think this was @Inside Pitch that first said this, but I think he made a fair point with it. The Angels haven't actually "added"  any pitching yet. So far all they've done is replace last year's pitchers. They replaced Cobb with Syndergaard, Bundy with Lorenzen and Heaney with Barria or Detmers. 

I'm skeptical the team has really improved much at all yet this winter. Getting Aaron Loup helps.  But really, the kind of improvement I think we are all looking for is replacing Heaney, a homer-prone back end starter with Stroman, a front of the rotation starter. 

if they can do that, and add one more reliever and a backup catcher (along with Trout and Rendon being healthy), then I'll be convinced the Angels are more than an 80 win team. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

55 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Anyone know if signing bonuses are paid right away and paid in full even if there is a lock out?  @Jeff Fletcher?

The payment schedule for signing bonuses is negotiable. I assume this year the players would all want them paid now.

[Angelsfan1984]

2 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I'm not a fan of Chris Taylor. I hope the remainder of the money we have to spend is spent on another starting pitcher that can log quality innings and one more reliever. 

Let Wade, Rengifo and B. Davis fight for the starting SS job...or sign Freddy Galvis on a one year deal until one of our own internal guys are ready in 2022. 

 

I’m with you on that. Keep building the pitching staff and get by with a league average infielder. The offense will be fine. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

2 minutes ago, Trendon said:

@Jeff Fletcherany idea what time Minasian's press conference is at?

It's going to be late this afternoon or this evening. They haven't set the time yet, presumably because they need Iglesias to finish his physical first. 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Second Base said:

I think this was @Inside Pitch that first said this, but I think he made a fair point with it. The Angels haven't actually "added"  any pitching yet. So far all they've done is replace last year's pitchers. They replaced Cobb with Syndergaard, Bundy with Lorenzen and Heaney with Barria or Detmers. 

I'm skeptical the team has really improved much at all yet this winter. Getting Aaron Loup helps.  But really, the kind of improvement I think we are all looking for is replacing Heaney, a homer-prone back end starter with Stroman, a front of the rotation starter. 

if they can do that, and add one more reliever and a backup catcher (along with Trout and Rendon being healthy), then I'll be convinced the Angels are more than an 80 win team. 

Using this rationale, no team can "add" any players. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

9 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

3 minutes ago, Second Base said:

I think this was @Inside Pitch that first said this, but I think he made a fair point with it. The Angels haven't actually "added"  any pitching yet. So far all they've done is replace last year's pitchers. They replaced Cobb with Syndergaard, Bundy with Lorenzen and Heaney with Barria or Detmers. 

I'm skeptical the team has really improved much at all yet this winter. Getting Aaron Loup helps.  But really, the kind of improvement I think we are all looking for is replacing Heaney, a homer-prone back end starter with Stroman, a front of the rotation starter. 

if they can do that, and add one more reliever and a backup catcher (along with Trout and Rendon being healthy), then I'll be convinced the Angels are more than an 80 win team. 

Exactly. Even Iglesias isnt an addition... other than in payroll

[Lou]

We need an actual shortstop. That is not Chris Taylor.

[ten ocho recon scout]

[Chuck]

2 minutes ago, Second Base said:

I think this was @Inside Pitch that first said this, but I think he made a fair point with it. The Angels haven't actually "added"  any pitching yet. So far all they've done is replace last year's pitchers. They replaced Cobb with Syndergaard, Bundy with Lorenzen and Heaney with Barria or Detmers. 

I'm skeptical the team has really improved much at all yet this winter. Getting Aaron Loup helps.  But really, the kind of improvement I think we are all looking for is replacing Heaney, a homer-prone back end starter with Stroman, a front of the rotation starter. 

if they can do that, and add one more reliever and a backup catcher (along with Trout and Rendon being healthy), then I'll be convinced the Angels are more than an 80 win team. 

There's no question the Angels are banking on a few things, aside from adding Loup, Syndergaard, Lorenzen, Iglesias. 

Mike Trout and Anthony Rendonn being fully healthy and play a good majority of the games. 

Continued progress and solid returns from Brandon Marsh, Jo Adell, Patrick Sandoval, Jose Suarez and Jamie Barria. 

Fletcher had a down year. Hoping he rebounds. 

Griffin Canning's return.

Time logged and experience from Reid Detmers.

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Exactly. Even Iglesias isnt an addition... other than in payroll

see my post above

[ten ocho recon scout]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

We need an actual shortstop. That is not Chris Taylor.

Correa....

 

[Cosmo_Kramer]

So you're saying they will *add* Stroman?

[EdmontonAngelsFan]

6 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

It's going to be late this afternoon or this evening. They haven't set the time yet, presumably because they need Iglesias to finish his physical first. 

Damn, was hoping you'd say because there's another signing to announce @Jeff Fletcher

[Second Base]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

see my post above

Replacing a bad player with a good player improves the team, but it doesn't add to depth. I think the team (at the end of the year) needs depth and quality and I think the moves they've made so far solve the depth issues because they've brought said players back or have since replaced them with and positional players.

And as for quality, it's a gamble.

I will say this, Syndergaard and Lorenzen have the POTENTIAL to be great than the players they're replacing. 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Second Base

[Make Angels Great Again]

8 minutes ago, Lou said:

We need an actual shortstop. That is not Chris Taylor.

 

Well, the only middle infielders of note left are Correa and Story, or Simmons (lol). At least the free agent ones.

 

[angelsnationtalk]

It can’t hurt that the union and MLB met in Dallas but there was no progress made. The one positive: time is on their side since the season isn’t scheduled to start for 4 months.

— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 1, 2021

"Time is on their side". What a joke. Players can't workout at team facilites and some players are still without contracts. If the lockout extends into February then everything else gets pushed back with it.

[Hubs]

15 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Nope

They can still discuss trades, cuz who would know? They just can't discuss them with players or finalize anything.