Angels minor leaguers blast Arte Moreno for terrible living conditions

[Taylor]

I actually shared an apartment with four other dudes my junior year of college. It was a two-story, three-bedroom luxury apartment in Malibu that was $4,800 per month. I believe my share was like $850 because I shared the smaller room with another dude.

 

 

It was terrible. My roommate thought it would be cool to smoke weed with his buddies every night. He was also super messy, everywhere in the apartment.

[Angels Fan Forever]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

Maybe if Lovegrove didn't suck ass for 9 years he'd have made it to the majors and been treated better. 

F'n South African

He went to Mission Viejo HS.

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Taylor said:

I actually shared an apartment with four other dudes my junior year of college. It was a two-story, three-bedroom luxury apartment in Malibu that was $4,800 per month. I believe my share was like $850 because I shared the smaller room with another dude.

 

 

It was terrible. My roommate thought it would be cool to smoke weed with his buddies every night. He was also super messy, everywhere in the apartment.

But you lived. 

You lived. 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

He went to Mission Viejo HS.

Born in Johannesburg

[eligrba]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

But you lived. 

You lived. 

He barely lived……..in a luxury apartment in Malibu.  The struggle was real.

 

[Taylor]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

But you lived. 

You lived. 

I did. A lot of people survived [insert human rights violation here], too.

[Taylor]

Just now, eligrba said:

He barely lived……..in a luxury apartment in Malibu.  The struggle was real.

 

That part of it was nice.

[jsnpritchett]

30 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Sold flowers on the street corner.

Worked as a dishwasher.

Waited tables.

Did janitorial work at night.

Worked as a painter.

Sanded boat bottoms by hand (fuck that was hard).

Drove a shuttle to the airport for $1 tips.

Shoveled rocks and dirt for cash.

Delivered pizza.

I could go on.

None of these jobs paid a “living wage” but I certainly lived.

And it all works out if you decide to take care of yourself and work hard and quit whining that somebody else owes you something.

I've never understood why people brag about working tough jobs that paid very little as if it's some badge of honor or something that proves your mettle. I wish you had been able to do all of those things at a higher wage. Why shouldn't we all want everyone to make a living wage? 

[Taylor]

3 minutes ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

He went to Mission Viejo HS.

Hey, so did I! I have a lot in common with him apparently.

[eligrba]

Just now, Taylor said:

That part of it was nice.

Complete disclosure, I’m jealous.

[Taylor]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

I've never understood why people brag about working tough jobs that paid very little as if it's some badge of honor or something that proves your mettle. I wish you had been able to do all of those things at a higher wage. Why shouldn't we all want everyone to make a living wage? 

Many boomers don't understand inflation.

[eligrba]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

I've never understood why people brag about working tough jobs that paid very little as if it's some badge of honor or something that proves your mettle. I wish you had been able to do all of those things at a higher wage. Why shouldn't we all want everyone to make a living wage? 

I suspect that it is because we live in a time when only certain jobs are worth doing….doing what needs to be done to pay the bills is honorable and should always be honored.

[JustATroutFan]

Moreno is a supporter of the 45th president of the United States. Not really a shock by these reports. 

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, JustATroutFan said:

Moreno is a supporter of the 45th president of the United States. Not really a shock by these reports. 

Dammit, why are you a lib?

[jsnpritchett]

4 minutes ago, eligrba said:

I suspect that it is because we live in a time when only certain jobs are worth doing….doing what needs to be done to pay the bills is honorable and should always be honored.

I think you're misunderstanding my point.  I'm not looking down on the jobs themselves at all.  My point is that regardless of what the job is, we should want a world where that job can provide wages/a salary that someone can live on.  I don't see it as a GOOD thing that people have to talk about getting paid like shit, "doing whatever it takes," etc.

[Taylor]

6 minutes ago, eligrba said:

I suspect that it is because we live in a time when only certain jobs are worth doing….doing what needs to be done to pay the bills is honorable and should always be honored.

I suspect that we live in a time when the cost of living has increased at an exponentially higher rate than the average wage has.

[eligrba]

2 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

I think you're misunderstanding my point.  I'm not looking down on the jobs themselves at all.  My point is that regardless of what the job is, we should want a world where that job can provide wages/a salary that someone can live on.  I don't see it as a GOOD thing that people have to talk about getting paid like shit, "doing whatever it takes," etc.

Thanks for the clarification. You are much nicer than my wife in this type of situation. Can you cook?

[bloodbrother]

This is a league wide problem but damn it says a lot to how much Angels players hate Moreno's guts that they'd be the ones going on record to speak out on conditions.

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, eligrba said:

Thanks for the clarification. You are much nicer than my wife in this type of situation. Can you cook?

Ha.  Definitely not, unless microwaving leftovers from takeout counts.

[Lou]

6 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

I think you're misunderstanding my point.  I'm not looking down on the jobs themselves at all.  My point is that regardless of what the job is, we should want a world where that job can provide wages/a salary that someone can live on.  I don't see it as a GOOD thing that people have to talk about getting paid like shit, "doing whatever it takes," etc.

Since when is $2500/month+ for a single guy not a living wage?

[JustATroutFan]

7 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Dammit, why are you a lib?

Because I am. You have a problem? You're for violence and racism? 

[jsnpritchett]

Just now, Lou said:

Since when is $2500/month+ for a single guy not a living wage?

I was responding to the list of jobs on Dwtncbad's post. 

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, JustATroutFan said:

Because I am. You have a problem? You're for violence and racism? 

Have you visited Portland or San Francisco lately?

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

Since when is $2500/month+ for a single guy not a living wage?

My first full-time job out of college, I made $3,000 per month (before taxes). I rented a casita from another family for $650, and had some disposable income but not much.

[Angels Fan Forever]

56 minutes ago, Lou said:

Could you live well off of $500k over a 9-year span?

If he did receive a $400 K signing bonus  9 years ago then taxes took about 40% so it was around $240.