Angels minor leaguers blast Arte Moreno for terrible living conditions

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, eligrba said:

From the article:

Lovegrove worked as a Lyft and Uber driver and as a warehouse worker for UPS and Best Buy in the offseason to supplement his minor league income and maintain his career pursuit in baseball.

 

How insulting…….to be in a similar position as many teachers needing a second job to make ends meet.

Once again, happy medium.  They should be given a livable wage or at least housing during the season. 

[Revad]

3 minutes ago, eligrba said:

Sometimes people don’t need to try…they just are.

I agree.  Maybe that’s true for ne  but I’m pretty sure Artie baby qualifies as well

Edited July 23, 2021 by Revad

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

They have every right to be upset if they don’t like their lives.  Go do something else.

Yeah that's always the line. "Get a second job!" 

[eligrba]

Just now, Stradling said:

Once again, happy medium.  They should be given a livable wage or at least housing during the season. 

I don’t know what they make or what their per diem is as a minor league player. Any idea?

[Lou]

This guy has made 1/2 a million dollars playing baseball and he has to work as a driver?

Yeah, I'm thinking he's made some terrible decisions along the way.

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Once again, happy medium.  They should be given a livable wage or at least housing during the season. 

So wait, they are not living?

[tdawg87]

Just now, Lou said:

This guy has made 1/2 a million dollars playing baseball and he has to work as a driver?

Yeah, I'm thinking he's made some terrible decisions along the way.

He got that money 9 years ago.

[eligrba]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

This guy has made 1/2 a million dollars playing baseball and he has to work as a driver?

Yeah, I'm thinking he's made some terrible decisions along the way.

Not his fault…

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

He got that money 9 years ago.

That's $50k/year.

Not only is he bad at baseball, he's bad at life.

[Revad]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

This guy has made 1/2 a million dollars playing baseball and he has to work as a driver?

Yeah, I'm thinking he's made some terrible decisions along the way.

If he makes it to the majors but what if he doesn’t?

[tdawg87]

Just now, Lou said:

That's $100k/year.

Not only is he bad at baseball, he's bad at life.

Math?

[Lou]

LOL

"$400K bonus. Lovegrove has been a big disappointment to date, with a career 5.25 ERA/1.65 WHIP.

Jul 2, 2015"

 

[PattyD22]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

That's $100k/year.

Not only is he bad at baseball, he's bad at life.

Huh?

[eligrba]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

He got that money 9 years ago.

Compounding interest over 9 yrs would be pretty sweet…I wish I had that kind of a problem.

 

[Lou]

Just now, Revad said:

If he makes it to the majors but what if he doesn’t?

They don't take the money back.

[Stradling]

Just now, Lou said:

LOL

"$400K bonus. Lovegrove has been a big disappointment to date, with a career 5.25 ERA/1.65 WHIP.

Jul 2, 2015"

 

So not a $100k a year. 

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

He got that money 9 years ago.

Over 9 years that is $44,444 a year plus his monthly to play ball.

I didn’t make $44k a year at that age.

 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

Math?

Yeah, fixed it.

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, Revad said:

If he makes it to the majors but what if he doesn’t?

Then he finds a way to make a living like every other person?

[Lou]

FIXED IT!

He's still bad at both. 

[tdawg87]

It's 44k over 9 years. 

He should be set for life.

[Angel Oracle]

29 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Put me in jail too.  I must be guilty of not providing a suitable living condition for my teenage kids because they go to Taco Bell.  

We all lived like that in college.

The difference is we weren’t trying to excel in a sport, where conditioning is important.

The guy even said that the other 4 orgs he’s been in were a lot better at it.

It doesn’t matter what bonus the player gets, if the conditioning, nutrition, and living conditions aren’t sufficient.   College athletes don’t sleep 6 to a room.

Edited July 23, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[TBM-850]

Penny wise and pound foolish. Arte is not cheap but he wins the Chairman Mao Misallocation of Resources award.

Sleep and nutrition are the two most important factors in avoiding injury and recovering from injury. Lack of proper sleep (slow wave 0.5 to 4 HZ in particular) is absolutely vital. It doesn't just happen. I notice a huge difference between 30 minutes and 2 hours of deep sleep.

Eating garbage fast food while trying to recover from the previous start? A starting pitcher loads and unloads huge forces into muscles, tendons, ligaments about 100 times. Some damage is done no matter what. There aren't any magical mechanics that can avoid it. The pitchers who heal completely between starts are those who avoid injury. Yes, there is almost certainly a genetic component but hitting the vital sleep/nutrition part should be easy.

Humans can only make about 3 grams of glycine per day (even assuming plenty of sleep and abundant essential aminos). Is that enough for an athlete to rebuild after a start. I doubt it but why risk it? Steak is cheap compared to TJ surgery. Feed these guys.

Even ignoring the human side of it, these are multimillion dollar investments at stake. I doubt the bean-counters thought this one through.

[Lou]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

It's 44k over 9 years. 

He should be set for life.

Could you live well off of $500k over a 9-year span?

[AngelsFaninGA]

For the record I don't see anything particularly egregious here, but it's telling that these incidents always seem to originate from the Angels.