Official 2021 MLB draft thread

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Bronson said:

BUt iTs nOT RocKEr!!!!!

It may be that the Angels felt that Bachman would contribute much sooner. He appears to have a lot of upside so this is not a fail pick 

[Second Base]

6 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

MLB.com said he missed 2 starts this year with a "tired arm."

Most of what I read had to do x with little stuff, a minute calf injury here, rolled ankle there. But tired arm is legit, it happened to everyone and has less to do with structure or even injury and more to do with conditioning. Guys that throws less in the off season tend to get it in March, a month or so into Spring. 

[ettin]

@Inside Pitch I wonder if this pick is a product of the Angels expulsion of scouting months ago in favor of video/statcast-type data? Or maybe I am off-base here?

[ten ocho recon scout]

14 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

I wanted Madden.

Cmon AO, Ive seen you pissed off at Maddon every game

[CanadianHalo]

2 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Most of what I read had to do x with little stuff, a minute calf injury here, rolled ankle there. But tired arm is legit, it happened to everyone and has less to do with structure or even injury and more to do with conditioning. Guys that throws less in the off season tend to get it in March, a month or so into Spring. 

Shoulder soreness was in there as well

[Second Base]

3 minutes ago, failos said:

Good to hear he has upside; that is reassuring. I don’t follow prospects/drafts like you, doc, Scotty, & totdprods—so my comments are mostly reactionary and based on some basic research. I just know that Rocker was a top pick with a history of injuries but someone who could potentially play in the show ASAP.
 

I like Scotty, but he tends to be wrong when it comes to scouting/predictions, so I’m concerned.

Hopefully this pick works out, though. I’m not just here for the lulz.

My track record with prospects is better than it is with major leaguers. But I get your point. 

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, ettin said:

@Inside Pitch I wonder if this pick is a product of the Angels expulsion of scouting months ago in favor of video/statcast-type data? Or maybe I am off-base here?

No clue.   But with fewer bodies out there, there was likely a greater reliance on data.   A lot of info is shared now through MLB too.

[Jason]

Just now, CanadianHalo said:

Shoulder soreness was in there as well

If that is a conditioning thing as well then that is something that can be avoided in the future. 

[Second Base]

1 minute ago, CanadianHalo said:

Shoulder soreness was in there as well

Tired arm and shoulder soreness might be the same thing lol. Forearm inflammation too. 

[Taylor]

13 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

MLB.com said he missed 2 starts this year with a "tired arm."

 

[Second Base]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

No clue.   But with fewer bodies out there, there was likely a greater reliance on data.   A lot of info is shared now through MLB too.

I think they said Bachman's stock rose at the combine. Perhaps the Angels were on have for that. 

[failos]

2 minutes ago, Second Base said:

My track record with prospects is better than it is with major leaguers. But I get your point. 

You know this stuff better than most. I know it can be hit or miss with prospects…just giving you a hard time

[Second Base]

Just now, Taylor said:

 

Something something Garrett Richards.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

 

Could you please forward this to the Halos' training staff? We want Bachman healthy as can be. 

[jsnpritchett]

 

[Second Base]

Just now, failos said:

You know this stuff better than most. I know it can be hit or miss with prospects…just giving you a hard time

It's well earned. With age, I've learned to try and set the ego asideb and admit when I was completely wrong. 

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

Could you please forward this to the Halos' training staff? We want Bachman healthy as can be. 

Even better. I'll send it to @Tank, who can show it to Perry next time they run into each other at the Glendale corner market.

[Taylor]

Just now, Taylor said:

Even better. I'll send it to @Tank, who can show it to Perry next time they run into each other at the Glendale corner market.

Racist

[Jason]

Just now, Taylor said:

Even better. I'll send it to @Tank, who can show it to Perry next time they run into each other at the Glendale corner market.

We all appreciate that 

[Inside Pitch]

13 minutes ago, ettin said:

@Inside Pitch I wonder if this pick is a product of the Angels expulsion of scouting months ago in favor of video/statcast-type data? Or maybe I am off-base here?

from BBA...

The 6-foot-1 righty has the second-best RapScore (62) of any pitcher currently ranked in the BA 500. RapScore is Rapsodo’s method of taking the data and insights it collects, then translating it into the 20-80 baseball scouting scale. For pitchers, a Rapscore is ultimately boiled down to three sectors: A pitcher’s velocity, horizontal break and vertical break. The RapScore weighs each of the pitches, but the fastball and best secondary pitch carry the largest weight in the score. 

 

According to Rapsodo’s data, what’s unique about Bachman’s upper-90s fastball, which has drawn plus grades from evaluators, is how he throws it.

"He actually throws (his fastball) around two o'clock (on the spin axis), which is more on the side of it than then most people would throw it, especially at that velocity,” Rapsodo analytics manager Nick Rossini said on the latest Baseball America tech & baseball podcast.

“And he's like a three-quarters (release point). He throws that pitch in a very interesting spot. He gets a ton of horizontal break on it. You wouldn't normally see that. Most fastballs are mostly vertical break, but he actually has a lot of horizontal and vertical break. And he also throws it at super high efficiency.”

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

from BBA...

The 6-foot-1 righty has the second-best RapScore (62) of any pitcher currently ranked in the BA 500. RapScore is Rapsodo’s method of taking the data and insights it collects, then translating it into the 20-80 baseball scouting scale. For pitchers, a Rapscore is ultimately boiled down to three sectors: A pitcher’s velocity, horizontal break and vertical break. The RapScore weighs each of the pitches, but the fastball and best secondary pitch carry the largest weight in the score. 

 

According to Rapsodo’s data, what’s unique about Bachman’s upper-90s fastball, which has drawn plus grades from evaluators, is how he throws it.

"He actually throws (his fastball) around two o'clock (on the spin axis), which is more on the side of it than then most people would throw it, especially at that velocity,” Rapsodo analytics manager Nick Rossini said on the latest Baseball America tech & baseball podcast.

“And he's like a three-quarters (release point). He throws that pitch in a very interesting spot. He gets a ton of horizontal break on it. You wouldn't normally see that. Most fastballs are mostly vertical break, but he actually has a lot of horizontal and vertical break. And he also throws it at super high efficiency.”

The more I hear about him the more I like this pick. 

[failos]

ESPN (lol) is claiming Kahlil Watson might be the best best pick in the draft…

[jsnpritchett]

Have there been any rumors about why Kahlil Watson dropped?

[jsnpritchett]

Just now, failos said:

ESPN (lol) is claiming Kahlil Watson might be the best best pick in the draft…

Well, there was some chatter about him going #1 overall, so that's probably what they're basing that on (i.e., actual draft position vs. projected).

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

Have there been any rumors about why Kahlil Watson dropped?

I haven't heard anything but it might just be the old fashioned bias against small bodied players.   At 5'9 180 he's pretty much already maxed out and it's not like guys at the upper levels are going to get smaller.