Official 2021 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

I am baffled by the lack of enthusiasm for who Berrios is.  He is pretty damn good.

Paying the correct price for him would be a very good move for this team.

Next year matters.

And do you think a pitcher like Berrios costs more now or in the off season?  

[Angels Fan Forever]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Ok.  Regardless there is no reason to send valuable prospects for one year of a good but not great starting pitcher.  Spend more to get someone better for longer.

I mean sure, if it is the same prospects, Alcantara is a better choice because of years of control. But I think we would need to offer more for Alcantara than Berrios.

I really don't think we should go after either one today. It feels like a sellers market with those two guys and one of the teams who has a real chance to contend will over pay today. Hearing a lot of noise about the Padres on MLB Network.

[Dtwncbad]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

And do you think a pitcher like Berrios costs more now or in the off season?  

Great question.  A little more now.  BUT he is available now.  You assume he is available in the off-season.  And he probably is.  I don’t like passing in a real opportunity today hoping the market is a little better maybe later.

Also, adding him now is more valuable than adding him in the off-season because the reality is the Angels are not entirely out of it this year.

AND, how about the same question for the value of an Adell?  Is he worth less in the off-season if he strikes out 38% of his at bats the rest of the way?

Edited July 30, 2021 by Dtwncbad

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

I mean sure, if it is the same prospects, Alcantara is a better choice because of years of control. But I think we would need to offer more for Alcantara than Berrios.

I really don't think we should go after either one today. It feels like a sellers market with those two guys and one of the teams who has a real chance to contend will over pay today. Hearing a lot of noise about the Padres on MLB Network.

Yes you would need to offer more for 3 years of the better pitcher.

[Taylor]

3 hours and 50 minutes left until the trade deadline.

[CanadianHalo]

 

[Stradling]

Just now, Dtwncbad said:

Great question.  A little more now.  BUT he is available now.  You assume he is available in the off-season.  And he probably is.  I don’t like passing in a real opportunity today hoping the market is a little better maybe later.

Also, adding him now is more valuable than adding him in the off-season because the reality is the Angels are not entirely out of it this year.

It isn’t just about Berrios, pitchers like him with one year left on their deal cost less than the same type of pitcher for a playoff run and one year.  Plus they cost less in the off season because the team trying to trade them are competing with free agents.  Supply and demand.  

[Stradling]

Just now, CanadianHalo said:

 

That is just dumb.

[Stradling]

Just now, CanadianHalo said:

 

So @Dtwncbad if that is true, would you be willing to give up Detmers to get Berrios?

[mmc]

 

[CanadianHalo]

Just now, Stradling said:

That is just dumb.

Pearson has had his issues this year

[angelsnationtalk]

1 minute ago, CanadianHalo said:

 

[Dtwncbad]

We all assume Scherzer is getting an extension.  Any predictions on what the Dodgers are giving him?

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

We all assume Scherzer is getting an extension.  Any predictions on what the Dodgers are giving him?

2 years $62 million.

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

So @Dtwncbad if that is true, would you be willing to give up Detmers to get Berrios?

Hard question.  Detmers looks so legit and so close to being an impact major leaguer.  I would far rather give up outfield and middle infield prospects than give up Detmers.

I would rather “overpay” with other prospects and keep Detmers.  Detmers is too good an exact fit for what the major league roster needs.

[DMVol]

Just now, Dtwncbad said:

We all assume Scherzer is getting an extension.  Any predictions on what the Dodgers are giving him?

[mmc]

 

[Dtwncbad]

Just now, mmc said:

 

Heyman about to report a mystery team.

[Dtwncbad]

Maybe I am just not seeing him but what happened to Peter Gammons?  Where is he?  Is he playing shuffleboard in Florida or something?

[Angels Fan Forever]

Pretty sure the chances of the Angels trading Reid Detmers today are less than zero.

[mmc]

 

[Stradling]

If Toronto gives up Pearson for Berrios, man are they dumb.  

[CanadianHalo]

3 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

If the Twins can take Pearson and one of Martin or Groshans for 1.5 years of Berrios they should wrap this up ASAP 

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

If Toronto gives up Pearson for Berrios, man are they dumb.  

The way Berrios gets hammered around here like he sucks, maybe the Angels should jump in and land Pearson for Cobb.

[Lhalo]

9 minutes ago, Taylor said:

3 hours and 50 minutes left until the trade deadline.

@Chuckster70 should put a countdown widget on this site.