Official 2021 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

[Angels Fan Forever]

24 minutes ago, Stradling said:

For Berrios, yes.  For Alcantara no.  

What is the concern with Alcantara? He has three years of control and Berrios has one.

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

What is the concern with Alcantara? He has three years of control and Berrios has one.

Read what I responded to.

[Inside Pitch]

36 minutes ago, Stradling said:

For Berrios, yes.  For Alcantara no.  

Are you looking at the right Alcantara?   Why do you like the 106 ERA+ pitcher with less control more than the 118 ERA+ pitcher with more control.

GB rate near 50%, FB that averages 97 MPH legit four pitch guy.  Sub .700 ops allowed in inter league for his career.

[Fake Chow]

Strad was saying he wouldn't trade Adell for Berrios but would for Alcantra.

[Angel Oracle]

2 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Are you looking at the right Alcantara?   Why do you like the 106 ERA+ pitcher with less control more than the 118 ERA+ pitcher with more control.

GB rate near 50%, FB that averages 97 MPH legit four pitch guy.  Sub .700 ops allowed in inter league for his career.

Hoping Strad’s referring to the Marlins’ Alcantara and his 3 1/3 years control

[Angels 1961]

38 minutes ago, eligrba said:

Have there been any reports of what the price is for Berrios or Alcantara?

For both would be very high. 

[mmc]

 

[Stradling]

So I confused everyone by responding to the way the question was asked. I would prefer to trade for Alcantra and his 3 years of control versus trade for 1+ year of Berrios.  

[Angels 1961]

38 minutes ago, Stradling said:

So wouldn’t that also make the price of Cobb, Heaney and Iglesias go up?

yes

[angelsnationtalk]

Just now, Stradling said:

So I confused everyone by responding to the way the question was asked. I would prefer to trade for Alcantra and his 3 years of control versus trade for 1+ year of Berrios.  

[Stradling]

43 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Would trading a couple of their best prospects for a Berrios or Alcantara be “gutting the farm”?

 

41 minutes ago, Stradling said:

For Berrios, yes.  For Alcantara no.  

Basically I was saying yes it would be gutting the farm if it was for Berrrios and one year of control, but it wouldn’t be gutting the farm for a guy with 3 years of control.  

[Inside Pitch]

15 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Read what I responded to.

Yep, I did the same stupid thing.  

[Inside Pitch]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

So I confused everyone by responding to the way the question was asked. I would prefer to trade for Alcantra and his 3 years of control versus trade for 1+ year of Berrios.  

Nah, lazy reading on my part.  You made sense...

[Inside Pitch]

9 minutes ago, Fake Chow said:

Strad was saying he wouldn't trade Adell for Berrios but would for Alcantra.

Great username.  

[Dtwncbad]

7 minutes ago, Stradling said:

 

Basically I was saying yes it would be gutting the farm if it was for Berrrios and one year of control, but it wouldn’t be gutting the farm for a guy with 3 years of control.  

Totally disagree.  The price they would pay for either would not even come close to “gutting the farm.”

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Totally disagree.  The price they would pay for either would not even come close to “gutting the farm.”

Ok.  Regardless there is no reason to send valuable prospects for one year of a good but not great starting pitcher.  Spend more to get someone better for longer.

[DMVol]

32 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Glad somebody got it right.....Haven't seen Iglesias' name mentioned much by any of the talking heads....he is a very good option for a contender, if we're selling....

[Dtwncbad]

I love minor leaguers probably far more than most.

But the danger in that love affair is similar to the dog that loves to play fetch but will not give up the tennis ball for you to throw it.

Nobody wants to gut the farm.  But you should be willing to trade some quality prospects if you expect to get quality major leaguers.

Edited July 30, 2021 by Dtwncbad

[Inside Pitch]

Just now, DMVol said:

Glad somebody got it right.....Haven't seen Iglesias' name mentioned much by any of the talking heads....he is a very good option for a contender, if we're selling....

Glad its Rosenthal saying it and not Heyman.

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Ok.  Regardless there is no reason to send valuable prospects for one year of a good but not great starting pitcher.  Spend more to get someone better for longer.

I am baffled by the lack of enthusiasm for who Berrios is.  He is pretty damn good.

Paying the correct price for him would be a very good move for this team.

Next year matters.

[Angels Fan Forever]

3 minutes ago, DMVol said:

Glad somebody got it right.....Haven't seen Iglesias' name mentioned much by any of the talking heads....he is a very good option for a contender, if we're selling....

If he goes today I am thinking it will be right after Kimbrel.

[mmc]

This is who I want

 

[Angel Oracle]

Cubs, hurry up and trade Kimbrel!

[Dtwncbad]

Do we expect all the last day deals to go down in the last hour?

I would have expected some deals to happen by now (today) since there is less than 4 hours left.

???

[mmc]