Angels acquire Dexter Fowler and cash from the Cardinals for a PTBNL or cash

[mmc]

Makes A LOT more sense now

[Hubs]

Maybe, and just go with me here, they hope Fowler will be good. Or at least 2019 numbers if not 2017 numbers.

[Bronson]

Just now, rafibomb said:

I think people haven't noticed how terrible Brian Goodwin was with the Reds last season. The guy had a -0.5 WAR. I'm all for hating on the trade but if your better option is Goodwin then idk....

But remember how good he was for us??

 

Obviously there’s some kind of comfort level he feels when he plays for us that he doesn’t get with other teams.

[UndertheHalo]

I love it when the angels “punt” seasons when they’re paying nearly 70 millions dollars for the prime playing years of Mike Trout and Anthony Rendon.

[ScottT]

Just now, T.G. said:

I love this move simply because so many are having a stroke about it.

Doubtful, bub.

But carry on.

[CanadianHalo]

1 minute ago, mmc said:

Makes A LOT more sense now

Still too much

[rafibomb]

Just now, Bronson said:

But remember how good he was for us??

 

Obviously there’s some kind of comfort level he feels when he plays for us that he doesn’t get with other teams.

I agree but if that's the case maybe there will be a comfort level of playing with the same coach he had the best year of his career with in Maddon.

[tdawg87]

I appreciate the take Fletch but nah. No way am I agreeing with that.

[Erstad Grit]

Just now, Hubs said:

Maybe, and just go with me here, they hope Fowler will be good. Or at least 2019 numbers if not 2017 numbers.

He's not  going to be suddenly a good defender which our new GM claimed to value. 

[Warfarin]

Just now, Hubs said:

Maybe, and just go with me here, they hope Fowler will be good. Or at least 2019 numbers if not 2017 numbers.

 

Just now, mmc said:

Makes A LOT more sense now

I think, @Hubs, the more likely answer is what mmc just cited - Fowler will be very cheap.

That said, Fowler is due 16.5mil, so we are on the hook for 3.75mil, right?

[Docwaukee]

1 minute ago, rafibomb said:

I think people haven't noticed how terrible Brian Goodwin was with the Reds last season. The guy had a -0.5 WAR. I'm all for hating on the trade but if your better option is Goodwin then idk....

how about no one.  Just give Trout a day off and leave CF open.  Dexter Fowler is literally awful.  

[2112]

Look on the bright side.  

 

 

 

 

I don't know what that is.  

[Warfarin]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

I appreciate the take Fletch but nah. No way am I agreeing with that.

Fowler isn't even a good defensive RF.  I don't see how he can be expected to play CF.  I know he used to, but that doesn't mean much in 2021.

[Capital_Dave]

I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion but I... don't hate this deal at $2.5M (if that's what we're paying).

Minasian just took the job recently.  He hasn't had the opportunity to build out his team, create a long-term vision, or really even get to know the team's prospects.

What Minasian is doing is playing a long game.  Next year's FA class is absolutely stacked, with a ton of high-end starting pitching and four amazing shortstops in the prime of their careers.  All of these one year deals, plus the Pujols $30M coming off the books, is going to create a TON of flexibility for Minasian and his team to formulate and implement a plan.

I am sensitive to the fear of a decline starting for Trout, but I think our window runs another five years.  I'll reserve judgement and will rain the hate down on Minasian if we're still in this same place a year from now.  But something tells me that the 2022 Angels are going to look MUCH better.  

Assuming we have baseball in 2022.

[Bronson]

1 minute ago, CanadianHalo said:

Still too much

No. Actually it’s not at all... depending on who we gave up... this isn’t bad. 

[mmc]

It's a $14.5M salary, the $16.5M includes his signing bonus, which is also being paid by St. Louis.

[tdawg87]

I don't care if the Cardinals paid his entire salary. We still gave up someone to get him. Couldn't find a cheap FA option?

Nope. I will die on this hill. Fuck this trade in its hairless, flacid asshole.

[Docwaukee]

3 minutes ago, mmc said:

Makes A LOT more sense now

it does until we give up a top 20 prospect.  It'll be ok though because he's blocked.  

[UndertheHalo]

It seems bad that they’re just trying to find cheap players as opposed to players that don’t suck shit.  Love to see that from the team that has sucked shit for a decade.  Very cool.  Thank you Angels. 

[Erstad Grit]

5 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

I think people haven't noticed how terrible Brian Goodwin was with the Reds last season. The guy had a -0.5 WAR. I'm all for hating on the trade but if your better option is Goodwin then idk....

He literally played 20 games with them. 

[Warfarin]

Just now, mmc said:

It's a $14.5M salary, the $16.5M includes his signing bonus, which is also being paid by St. Louis.

Do we know for sure the Cardinals are paying the 2mil for his signing bonus?  Is that a requirement of the deal?  Just curious how that works.

[rafibomb]

 

1 minute ago, Capital_Dave said:

I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion but I... don't hate this deal at $2.5M (if that's what we're paying).

Minasian just took the job recently.  He hasn't had the opportunity to build out his team, create a long-term vision, or really even get to know the team's prospects.

What Minasian is doing is playing a long game.  Next year's FA class is absolutely stacked, with a ton of high-end starting pitching and four amazing shortstops in the prime of their careers.  All of these one year deals, plus the Pujols $30M coming off the books, is going to create a TON of flexibility for Minasian and his team to formulate and implement a plan.

I am sensitive to the fear of a decline starting for Trout, but I think our window runs another five years.  I'll reserve judgement and will rain the hate down on Minasian if we're still in this same place a year from now.  But something tells me that the 2022 Angels are going to look MUCH better.  

Assuming we have baseball in 2022.

We are paying him 1.75 so less.

[floplag]

Once again im sitting here thinking, there has to be more... why would we make such a trade, for someone who will make more than what we could have gotten in FA.   
WE apparently have limited resources and this, is the lions share of them?
I wanted a bat, in RF, but this was about item 47 on the list of ideas... 

[mmc]

Just now, Warfarin said:

Do we know for sure the Cardinals are paying the 2mil for his signing bonus?  Is that a requirement of the deal?  Just curious how that works.

 

[Stradling]

Just now, floplag said:

Once again im sitting here thinking, there has to be more... why would we make such a trade, for someone who will make more than what we could have gotten in FA.   
WE apparently have limited resources and this, is the lions share of them?
I wanted a bat, in RF, but this was about item 47 on the list of ideas... 

He’s getting $1.75 million from us.  So I don’t think this is the lions share of our resources left.