Brian Goodwin traded to the Reds for Packy Naughton and Jose Salvador

[T.G.]

Are these cons felons?

[mmc]

 

[m0nkey]

Yes! Great trade, EpPler!

[Inside Pitch]

6 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

 

Ranked Appalachian League #20 prospect in 2019
The fourth signee out of the Dominican Republic in 2017 to appear on this list, Salvador is a skinny, projectable lefthander who didn’t post the best numbers this summer but flashed enough stuff to excite scouts who saw him. Salvador posted a 5.05 ERA in 46.1 innings over 11 starts before getting promoted to the Pioneer League in late August. At the moment, he works with a fastball that sits in the low 90s, but evaluators believe he’ll add more to that in the future once he starts to fill out his lanky frame. He lands the pitch for strikes at will, throwing from an athletic and clean delivery that bodes well for his future command. As for secondaries, Salvador has a curveball that has the makings of a plus pitch and frequently made opposing batters look silly. He’s also flashed a changeup that could become an average offering with more usage in the future.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/players/100775/jose-salvador/

[rafibomb]

Yay upside!

 

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Jose Salvador Scouting Report

Position: Left-handed pitcher | B/T: L/L

Height: 6′ 2″ | Weight: 170 lbs | Acquired: Intl. FA – Signed July 3, 2017

Born: September 21, 1999

Fastball | The pitch works in the 90-94 MPH range.

Curveball | Currently an above-average offering, but it will flash itself as a plus offering every so often.

Change Up | It’s a below-average offering right now, but he throws it with good arm speed and it could be a fringe-average offering in the future.

There’s a lot to like with Jose Salvador. In 2019 he had a bunch of strikeouts and was stingy with his walks, showing off good control – particularly with his fastball and curveball. As it is with many young players, there’s a lot of projection needing to be accounted for. And it’s there with Salvador. As he fills out his frame he’s expected to add velocity. As he continues to get more experience his curveball should get more consistent – as should his change up.

Jose Salvador has the pieces there to be a future Major League starter. With a potential plus breaking ball, a solid fastball that could have above-average velocity, and a third offering that could at least be usable – the pitches are there. Tot his point in his career he’s also shown good control, too. He’ll need to continue to develop all of his stuff, and just as importantly, remain healthy. How much velocity he can gain moving forward could be the determining factor between how he projects long term. If the velocity climbs into the low-to-mid 90’s you’re talking more of a mid-rotation possibility. Right now, though, there’s more #4/5 starter potential here. With that said he’s certainly one of the pitchers from rookie ball to keep an eye on moving forward in the organization.

 

 

 

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Jose Salvador is turning into a bit of a hidden gem from Cincinnati’s 2017 international class.

Despite being a very minor signing, Salvador has performed at every level since debuting in the DSL last year and has shown much more potential than previously expected. The long-limbed, 6-foot-2 Dominican left-hander has an ideal pitchers body, with plenty of room for projection as he adds muscle to his slender frame. While his fastball currently works in the low-90s, it would not surprise me if Salvador grew into a guy who sits in the mid-90s. His curveball, which is his go-to secondary, gives him a second above-average pitch to compliment his fastball. It has solid depth and shape, and he is able to use it effectively against both lefties and righties. His changeup definitely lacks behind these two pitches and is definitely a below-average pitch as of right now. His arm speed works well with the pitch, but it lacks the movement and the depth to be consistently effective. Ironically, given his assortment of pitches, Salvador actually had reverse splits in 2019, as he dominated righties and got crushed by lefties. I’ll chalk this up to sample size for now, but if it continues it would be a very strange trend.

For his age, Salvador shows surprising control and maturity. While his ERA at Greenville doesn’t look great, when you look at the underlying numbers, it starts to look a lot better. His 28.3 K% and 7.5 BB% are both spectacular, and if he can continue on that path as he climbs the MiLB ladder, he has the potential to skyrocket up lists. For 2020, I’ll be looking for physical growth from Salvador and development on the changeup, and he’s definitely a name worth monitoring.

 

 

 

 

[rafibomb]

Ranked 25th on FanGraphs who tend to favor ceiling more than the other major publications. Packy Naughton has a lower ceiling hence their ranking of #20 for Packy as opposed to #13 for MLB Pipeline. Salvador is unranked on MLB Pipeline's list.

Edited September 3, 2020 by rafibomb

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

Sounds like some good upside. Eventually one of these pitchers has to blossom for us. 

[Angelsjunky]

Jose Rondon. OK, I guess - another guy that will reach the majors in 3ish years.

[tdawg87]

I'll take any pitchers at this point tbh

[Vlad27Trout27]

Not bad at all. 

 

Already projected to be 4/5, with alot of development still left. 

If everything clicks, could be a solid miffle of the rotation arm or better 

[wopphil]

This looks like a solid get. Overall a pretty decent trade IMO.

[Angelsjunky]

I look forward to his transformation into a miffle.

[Lou]

2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I'll take any pitchers at this point tbh

Thank you for not lying.

[stormngt]

On 9/2/2020 at 7:05 AM, angelsnationtalk said:

Not to burst your bubble but Andreise (6.41 ERA) and Robles (10.64 ERA) have also been extreme cons. 

That's 8/11 guys that haven't panned out and Ramirez is a hard maybe. That's gotten us to the spot we're in now. Second worst in baseball. 

Robles was very good last year.  So why is he a bust smokey on performance this year?  Shouldnt he be a con and a 0lus?

[Angel]

Another lotto reliever, not bad, I like the trade.  Goodwin looks lost in the outfield still, and Packy's real first name is Patrick.

[DMVol]

15 hours ago, wopphil said:

This looks like a solid get. Overall a pretty decent trade IMO.

For a team going nowhere this year, getting two ok arms for a 4th OF'er we got for free....I'll take it....

[khouse]

Here's an article I found on Salvador that is very encouraging. Gotta say, I think Eppler did a great job in getting 2 pitchers with some intriguing upside in exchange for Goodwin...

https://redsminorleagues.com/2019/10/21/cincinnati-reds-top-prospects-jose-salvador/

[totdprods]

Salvador sounds like he will slot in nicely with Yan and Soriano in that wave of pitching. 

I’m tempering expectations with Naughton and am hoping the likelier scenario plays out in that he winds up being very MLB-ready, and we get him contributing ASAP. I’d accept #4-5 production as his ceiling if it meant he could stick in the rotation as soon as next year. 

[eligrba]

On 9/2/2020 at 7:24 AM, nate said:

There is nothing you can conclude from this fake season other than the Angels still suck.

Maybe that the Angels were fake good?

[eligrba]

On 9/2/2020 at 7:32 PM, tdawg87 said:

I'll take any pitchers at this point tbh

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, eligrba said:

That's the look of a man who is determined to bang your 18 year old daughter.

[rafibomb]

Since being traded to the Reds Brian Goodwin is hitting .152 in 46 at-bats with 19 strikeouts.

Edited September 24, 2020 by rafibomb

[eaterfan]

12 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

Since being traded to the Reds Brian Goodwin is hitting .152 in 46 at-bats with 19 strikeouts.

I think our outfielders have hit better over that span.

[totdprods]

Something tells me this will wind up being one of Eppler’s best deals. Goodwin brought some solid offense and the cost and control was nice, but we’re managing, and either or both of the pitchers returned could make this a great deal.

[Lhalo]

31 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Something tells me this will wind up being one of Eppler’s best deals.

Going out with a bang.