SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[gotbeer]

Just got back down from the mountain.   First, compared to a regular Saturday, it was a Summer crowd size.  And I don't think the Bridge to Nowhere was running, so this was just more people than usual.  

Also, damn in n out.  Must have been 50 cars in line at the Montebello/Rosemead location.

[wopphil]

On 3/20/2020 at 10:34 PM, calscuf said:

I’ll ask my buddy that owns the liquor store near my house to set one aside for you.  He gets 2/month.  Are you in OC?

Dude, can you get me one?

[Taylor]

4 hours ago, Lhalo said:

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=279769

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/grabien-news/

[Taylor]

4 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

Crazy, scary stuff

Apparently that video is from 2017.

[Taylor]

4 hours ago, notherhalo said:

Were going to buy about 20k KN95 masks (pretty much N95)   

Should we sell them at nearly break even, or inflate the price but compensate by giving 1/5 masks away to charity?  We are leaning on #2, but where would we find good candidates to give away?  KN95 is the Chinese equivalent for N95 but not 100% exact to the spec.   Its better than nothing.  Were trying to prevent a "no good goes unpunished" event.

Give them all to charity.

[notherhalo]

5 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Give them all to charity.

You can PM me some places here that need them and cant afford them.  Unfortunately Im in survival mode for the ~100 employees/families in my company to stay afloat.  We could do that, but it will draw from the piggy bank that might keep the people I have employed.   Tough choice

[Lou]

Sell them to Taylor and he can donate them to charity. 

[Blarg]

5 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

It gets into schematics.

I have been fighting with this for four years. 

[Blarg]

4 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Just got back down from the mountain.   First, compared to a regular Saturday, it was a Summer crowd size.  And I don't think the Bridge to Nowhere was running, so this was just more people than usual.  

Also, damn in n out.  Must have been 50 cars in line at the Montebello/Rosemead location.

There is a hiking trail by my house and today there was a line of 70 cars down the street where there are usually only about ten cars in the parking lot. Getting told to stay home from work may just create the fittest America we've had in centuries.

[arch stanton]

A friendly reminder from Saudi Telecom 

[Jason]

6 hours ago, calscuf said:

Don’t know if this is a Craig.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/cops-investigating-disturbing-trend-of-teens-coughing-on-produce/

Can they pass a temporary law that allows us to beat the shit out of people that do this?

[Jason]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/time-for-a-reality-check-america-the-flu-is-a-much-bigger-threat-than-coronavirus-for-now/2020/01/31/46a15166-4444-11ea-b5fc-eefa848cde99_story.html
whoops, this didn’t age well 

[Lhalo]

6 hours ago, calscuf said:

Don’t know if this is a Craig.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/cops-investigating-disturbing-trend-of-teens-coughing-on-produce/

I remember seeing a video a couple months ago from a security camera in China showing a woman purposefully coughing all over elevator buttons. I always carry a knife so I hate to think what I would do if I saw that happening in front of me. 

[gotbeer]

12 hours ago, notherhalo said:

Were going to buy about 20k KN95 masks (pretty much N95)   

Should we sell them at nearly break even, or inflate the price but compensate by giving 1/5 masks away to charity?  We are leaning on #2, but where would we find good candidates to give away?  KN95 is the Chinese equivalent for N95 but not 100% exact to the spec.   Its better than nothing.  Were trying to prevent a "no good goes unpunished" event.

Sell them.  Don't give them to charity, because they are not 100% to N95 spec.  That would give them the false reality that the masks are actually protecting them when it may not be.  

Also don't sell them as protection from coronavirus.  Sell them as what they are, which are probably dust masks.  However you mark them, it probably would not make any difference anyways, people will still buy them and wear them as protection.  But it will protect you from the idiots that will come back later with Calscuf saying you sold them under false pretenses.  Just mark it up at the standard retail rate as you would any other product.  

[St1ck]

U.S. Senate leadership aims to finalize trillion-dollar coronavirus bill
https://news.yahoo.com/u-senate-leadership-aims-finalize-141350505.html

[Redondo]

DR. WILLIAM HASELTINE: These are the possible outcomes of virus pandemic

The way public life has changed in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic may feel new and frightening to many. But the older among us have lived through similar times and similar fears.

There is one thing we know that may bring solace: there will be an end to this pandemic and – if we take advantage of the most promising drug options available today – the end may come sooner than most think.

Those of us who have lived long lives can remember the intense panic that summer used to bring, as “polio season” approached. Pools were shut down, movie theatres emptied, and most of us were isolated from the majority of our friends.

Our fear was not unfounded. In 1952, nearly 60,000 children were infected with the virus and more than 3,000 died. Thousands who survived were left paralyzed by the disease.

But a year later, researchers announced a new vaccine had been successfully tested in humans. Eventually, thanks to their work and the work of many other scientists and public health leaders, the epidemic was contained.

The current coronavirus pandemic will end as well, despite how heavily it besieges us today. The only question is how. There are four possible ways:

If the coronavirus proves to be seasonal in temperate climates, meaning that new infections eventually decline on their own as the weather warms. But in this scenario, the coronavirus would return when cold weather returns – although we hope that by then our health system is better prepared to help those who fall severely ill to recover.

Through herd immunity, where a significant percentage of the population becomes infected, recovers and develops a natural immunity. The challenge is that reaching herd immunity will take a significant amount of time. While we wait, it’s possible that as many as 200,000 to 1.7 million Americans may die.

 Development of a vaccine that would be made widely available. There are at least five vaccines currently in some phase of development, with one starting clinical trials just this week. That’s a promising development, but just the first phase of a lengthy process. Even in the best-case scenario, it will still be many months before a successful vaccine is available to the general public.

 Accelerated development of therapeutic drugs that treat infections and, depending on the drug, prevent further infection from occurring. One option in this scenario is an antiviral drug combination that targets the RNA at the center of the coronavirus responsible for the pandemic sweeping across the world today.

In the midst of the SARS and MERS outbreaks, a number of drug candidates that target key proteins in coronaviruses underwent lengthy laboratory and preclinical study. But the drugs were never advanced to clinical trials. That’s because there was no market for them and no government was willing to step in to guarantee the market with a commitment to stockpile the drugs.

Thankfully, there is renewed interest today in these therapeutic solutions, with some antiviral drugs currently moving through clinical testing. There are also clinical studies now underway of other drugs that treat the respiratory consequences of infection but not the virus directly.                   

With the right leadership and opportunity on our side, we may be able to begin moving toward the end of the current pandemic. But when this happens, we shouldn’t turn away from the lessons we are learning today.

Someday there will be another lethal coronavirus epidemic. There will also be another highly lethal and transmissible strains of influenza, a global spread of antibiotic-resistant tuberculosis and antibiotic-resistant bacteria. The biological threats we face are not unknown – just like the current coronavirus outbreak was not unexpected among scientists.

This outbreak is yet another lesson from the natural world – one we have ignored in the past and ignore in the future at our peril.

If you live in an earthquake zone, you build earthquake-proof houses. If you live near a volcano, you pay close attention to the local seismometer and clear out when it goes off.

Now we are on the alert today to take actions to protect ourselves against a dangerous virus. But will we forget again tomorrow? We will we ready for the next viral epidemic or pandemic?

It is up to us to hold our leaders accountable now and in the future to step in and bring lifesaving drugs to market when others won't or can't.

[Redondo]

Coronavirus sends some to second homes, vacation towns tell tourists 'don't come here'

 

[Redondo]

Need a job during the coronavirus pandemic? This company needs 10,000 employees

Domino's will be hiring 10,000 employees nationwide in response to a growth in delivery demands amid the coronavirus crisis.

The pizza company is looking for part- and full-time delivery drivers, pizza cookers, customer service representatives, managers and licensed truck drivers for its supply chain centers and stores. The need will vary at each store.

"Our corporate and franchise stores want to make sure they're not only feeding people, but also providing opportunity to those looking for work at this time, especially those in the heavily-impacted restaurant industry," CEO Ritch Allison said in a statement.

[Redondo]

 

[Jason]

18 minutes ago, Redondo said:

 

Translation: Bomb the shit out of China

[fan_since79]

World War 1: the war to make the world safe for democracy

World War 2: the war to destroy the double threat of Hitler and the Japanese Empire

Bolton's War: the war to watch the world burn

Guy needs to go away.

[fan_since79]

54 minutes ago, st1ckboy said:

U.S. Senate leadership aims to finalize trillion-dollar coronavirus bill
https://news.yahoo.com/u-senate-leadership-aims-finalize-141350505.html

If this bill fails when the vote is taken tomorrow you're going to see pure carnage on Wall Street that surpasses even last week.

The only good news is they stop trading for the day when it goes down a certain very large percentage, can't recall the number. But then there's the next day, and the day after that. 

These idiots need to get something done, and it has to be big. The economy and the country is on the edge of the cliff leaning over the precipice.

[RallyMo]

39 minutes ago, Redondo said:

 

I hate this guy.

He's not wrong.

[notherhalo]

had dinner at a wet market once, it was okay

also was probably giving the diseases that night

 

[Chuck]