Ready to punt 2019 or no?

[Dtwncbad]

Just wondering how many would be willing to make trades right now to make the team better next year and beyond if it means the team is more or less “punting” on 2019.

I am fine with it.

[Stradling]

No. 

[Dtwncbad]

I admire your optimism.

I just don’t see the starting pitching being good enough so I wouldn’t be upset if they made some moves for 2020.

[Blarg]

I have no problem with building for next season. I just don't see there is all that much that will be recouped from trading out players that would be rentals for other teams. What exactly are you thhinking of trading and what kind of package in return?

[John Taylor]

We just won 3 in a row and are only 5 games out of the 2nd WC spot. That's gonna be a "No, dawg" from me.

[Mark PT]

28 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Just wondering how many would be willing to make trades right now to make the team better next year and beyond if it means the team is more or less “punting” on 2019.

I am fine with it.

I think we stay the course and let the young pitching develop. Signing 1-2 starters would be nice in the offseason. Oh and get rid of Cahill.

[Mark PT]

Just now, Mark PT said:

I think we stay the course and let the young pitching develop. Signing 1-2 starters would be nice in the offseason. Oh and get rid of Cahill.

Did I mention get rid of Cahill?

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

If they have the opportunity to make the team better next year and beyond via trade I think they absolutely have to explore it.  The team has been fun to watch as of late but I just don't see them currently as a team that is built to do much in the playoffs because of the SP.  If they feel other wise I hope I'm wrong and they're playing meaningful baseball in September.  Regardless of what happens between now and the end of the season I hope they make a strong run at Cole.  He will get overpaid and the last few years of the contract will likely look bad but if he pitches like an ace the next ~3 years that takes pressure off of the young SP's and makes the team dangerous.     

 

[Blarg]

The Yankjees will land Cole, you guys might as well move on from this guy.

[Claude]

We need to catch Oakland. What’s it going to take to do that. Let’s concentrate on that first. 

[Claude]

41 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The Yankjees will land Cole, you guys might as well move on from this guy.

If Severino comes back strong and Tanaka, German, Happ and Paxton all do their jobs they won’t pursue Cole. They have a bullpen that can out-punch any opponent. They will also get Jordan Montgomery back next season.  

Edited July 16, 2019 by Calzone 2

[beatlesrule]

The Angels swept a last place team. People are getting a little too excited. They are supposed to do that. Punt.

[bloodbrother]

This is a .500ish team so they should be looking to sell IMO. They don't have much to sell though other than Calhoun. If they can get anything for either Harvey or Cahill that would be great, if not then I guess they just hold onto them since they have no rotation of any sort

 

 

[tdawg87]

Don't punt but don't buy either. This team is not going to make the playoffs. 

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Don't punt but don't buy either. This team is not going to make the playoffs. 

If you can get a starter that you can control a couple of years then go for it.  

[Stradling]

In the other thread I mentioned Ian Kennedy for Kole, because Kennedy has one year of control left.  I am not sure I want Kennedy, but it wouldn’t surprise me. 

[bloodbrother]

1 minute ago, #WeNasty said:

If you can get a starter that you can control a couple of years then go for it.  

This. Ideally they can move Kole in a deal and acquire this

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

This. Ideally they can move Kole in a deal and acquire this

If you can then it is going to be for someone that makes $15 million or so a year.  You are not getting a young major league starting pitcher with controllable years for Kole.  You are getting prospects or a well compensated pitcher that a team would like to get out of the contract.

[Stradling]

Tonight’s game should get this thread going 

[Tank]

13 minutes ago, #WeNasty said:

In the other thread I mentioned Ian Kennedy for Kole, because Kennedy has one year of control left.  I am not sure I want Kennedy, but it wouldn’t surprise me. 

If he’s better than Cahill and Harvey, and the price is right, go for it. Okay to start looking at next year but wouldn’t tear this team apart right now.

[DCAngelsFan]

The basis of the question seems unlikely - there probably aren't really any trades we can make that would do both of:

a)  Make us significantly less competitive this year, (meaning we trade a significant piece from the current roster), and 

b)  make us significantly *more* competitive next year and beyond.

But if there were such a trade available to us - I'd be reluctant to trade someone like Calhoun today, b/c we're still too close to losing Skaggs - I feel like it'd make the club look pretty heartless to trade someone right now.  I don't know what it's worth - but I'd rather potential FA's look at the Angels and think "That's a tight-knit organization that cares about their players" rather than "That's a cold-hearted bunch".  But a couple of weeks from now?  

Today, and every day, I'd expect Eppler to be working to find ways to improve the team - and I'd rather it be with a goal of long-term improvement rather than gearing up for a very unlikely stretch run that leaves us weaker next year.  

 

 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Calzone 2 said:

If Severino comes back strong and Tanaka, German, Happ and Paxton all do their jobs they won’t pursue Cole. They have a bullpen that can out-punch any opponent. They will also get Jordan Montgomery back next season.  

They will pursue Cole and if they have a surplus will trade one of them off or move Happ to the bullpen to make room. 

[Second Base]

Depends on what is being offered. If teams are offering a high price for Calhoun's services, then yeah, I'll punt.

As it stands, I don't think trans will offer much for Calhoun and nothing at all for Harvey and Cahill, so they're better off not selling. 

[GrittyVeterans]

Every move should be made with an eye towards next season and beyond.

[Claude]

2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Don't punt but don't buy either. This team is not going to make the playoffs.