Lee Smith and Harold Baines get the hall call

[Sam Sanchez]

Harold Baines (RF) - Career WAR 38.7 over 22 seasons

 

Tim Salmon (RF) - Career WAR 40.6 over 14 seasons

 

 

So, does this mean Salmon has a chance? Ha.

[Don]

1 hour ago, Sam Sanchez said:

Harold Baines (RF) - Career WAR 38.7 over 22 seasons

 

Tim Salmon (RF) - Career WAR 40.6 over 14 seasons

 

 

So, does this mean Salmon has a chance? Ha.

Honestly, if GA had remained healthy I’d say him and Baines end up with incredibly similar numbers. Considering the number of seasons they each played, they’re fairly similar.

[floplag]

Smith i get, Baines.... not so much. 

[Dtwncbad]

I wonder how Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, and Hank Aaron feel about being in the Hall of Above Average.

[Hubs]

Hey I don't think this belongs in this thread necessarily, but if Baines got in with 37.8 Career WAR in 22 seasons... Trout's a shoo in with 64.3 WAR in 7. LOL.

Also, did you all know that Trout is the Angels Career WAR leader? Already? And that Simmons will be top 20 by this time next year, and top 12 by the end of 2020. If they resigned him for three more seasons after 2020, he'd have a chance to pass Tim Salmon and Jim Fregosi on the Angels Career WAR list?

Crazy to think we're watching two of the best players to ever play for the Angels right now and the second isn't Albert Pujols.

 

[gurn67]

Baines never even had ONE season where he was one of the top 15 players in baseball.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

19 hours ago, arch stanton said:

If Baines is in can Edgar be far behind?

Baines wasn't purely a DH.

[Brandon]

Surely Rob Deer will now get a nod next year

[Stradling]

Ron Kittle is fucking pumped

[jsnpritchett]

10 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Baines wasn't purely a DH.

Neither was Martinez.  And Baines was a pretty bad OFer before he transitioned to DH'ing.

[Billy_Ball]

"The Big Easy" was one of four Angel All Stars in 1995 - Smith, Edmonds, Snow and DiSarcina.

[Dtwncbad]

Just listened to Edgar Martinez interview on MLB radio.

The guy answered every single question about his playing days with some form of being obsessed with his own batting average, winning the batting title and hitting .350.

Not a word about winning or teammates.  Personal batting average.

It was all about his own numbers.

Not sure is remotely aware of how bad that interview sounded. . .

[Blarg]

Answers often follow the line of questioning, also he played for the Mariners so there was not much winning to talk about.

He had an outstanding career and should be proud of his accomplishments.

Career batting line .312/.418/.515/.933 with a 147 OPS+.

 

 

[jsnpritchett]

8 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Answers often follow the line of questioning, also he played for the Mariners so there was not much winning to talk about.

 

They had a winning record in 9 of his 18 seasons and made the playoffs 4 times.

[Dtwncbad]

The point is who would be dumb enough to repeat over and over how much they really, really cared about their own batting average?

I am not asking anyone to not like him.  The dude could rake.

I am just commenting on weird that was and it sounded lousy.

[jsnpritchett]

17 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

The point is who would be dumb enough to repeat over and over how much they really, really cared about their own batting average?

I am not asking anyone to not like him.  The dude could take.

I am just commenting on weird that was and it sounded lousy.

You sound old and cranky.

[Slegnaac]

Has the Veterans committee vote gotten to the level of the Hollywood Walk of Fame?

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

On 12/9/2018 at 9:26 PM, popo85 said:

Congrats to both huge fan of each of them, Lee was part of one of my fav Angel teams 95 and was the first of 3 great Angel closers in a row with Perci following then K-Rod

No Love for Bryan Harvey?

[popo85]

22 minutes ago, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

No Love for Bryan Harvey?

I think there was a little gap between when Harvey played then Lee came in, but Perci and K-Rod were back to back right after

[Inside Pitch]

 

I don't believe Baines was HOF worthy but watching Tony LaRussa tear Chris Russo to shreds and calling him clueless on MLB Network was pretty satisfying.  

[T.G.]

32 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

 

I don't believe Baines was HOF worthy but watching Tony LaRussa tear Chris Russo to shreds and calling him clueless on MLB Network was pretty satisfying.  

 

[m0nkey]

Game winning RBI's!

[m0nkey]

 

[Angelsjunky]

Baines is the worst inductee since Jim Rice, at least based on memory. Hall of Very Good, indeed. Lots of better players not in the Hall.

[T.G.]

I understand where T.L. is coming from.  He's spent his whole life evaluating talent with his eyes.  A new generation comes along telling him he's been evaluating players and even their careers all wrong... I can see why he'd be defensive.  I can understand his feeling "disrespected."  The folks who understand and rely on analytics are winning the day.  They're taking over.  He feels devalued and his opinion is being marginalized.  He doesn't like the fact that a lot of these analysts have never played baseball or managed baseball at a high level. 

I also understand his frustration with the baseball writers.  They have an interest in the game... but many of them may not "know the game" the way he does. 

At the end of the day, T.L. needs to get over himself a bit.  It's a new day.  There's a new way.  That being said - There is definitely a place for both.  BUT.... both sides have to make room for one another.