More Thoughts & Prayers

[Lou]

20 minutes ago, InsideThePark said:

Agreed, in this instance, that wasn't in question.

I wonder if it would have been relevant in any of the recent mass murders.  My guess would be no. 

[Lou]

I'm wondering how a person's inability to handle their own finances correlates with being a danger to society if said person was not banned from purchasing a gun.

Heck, that would eliminate 85% of the NBA and 98% of the white trash population (i rounded down) 

[Lhalo]

FBI having a solid 2018 so far. 

[Jason]

7 hours ago, LHalo said:

FBI having a solid 2018 so far. 

It will be interesting to see what, if any, changes are made with their organization. 

[gotbeer]

19 minutes ago, Jason said:

It will be interesting to see what, if any, changes are made with their organization. 

FBI had the Pulse nightclub shooter on the watchlist, then decided he's a good boy.  Paddock wasn't on anyone's radar.  Even with all the guns he bought in multiple states.  

Nothing will change at the FBI.  Because Trump.

[floplag]

1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

FBI had the Pulse nightclub shooter on the watchlist, then decided he's a good boy.  Paddock wasn't on anyone's radar.  Even with all the guns he bought in multiple states.  

Nothing will change at the FBI.  Because Trump.

Trump wasnt in office for the shootings prior to his taking office, i mean these things did happen under Obama you know... and Bush... and pretty much every president in the last 30-40 years so... irrational Trump hatred aside who do you blame for those? 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

Trump wasnt in office for the shootings prior to his taking office, i mean these things did happen under Obama you know... and Bush... and pretty much every president in the last 30-40 years so... irrational Trump hatred aside who do you blame for those? 

I think he was being sarcastic 

[red321]

21 minutes ago, floplag said:

Trump wasnt in office for the shootings prior to his taking office, i mean these things did happen under Obama you know... and Bush... and pretty much every president in the last 30-40 years so... irrational Trump hatred aside who do you blame for those? 

Democrats, as well as Republicans, have failed miserably on this issue. 

[Jason]

http://www.courts.ca.gov/33961.htm

I think this is a good idea that I can get behind

[floplag]

1 hour ago, red321 said:

Democrats, as well as Republicans, have failed miserably on this issue. 

Thank you. 

 

1 hour ago, Jason said:

I think he was being sarcastic 

If so then fine, i didnt get that from it.

[Tank]

saw this on FB today. i think this is something that @red321 proposed once upon a time. it's something i support fully.

[AngelsFaninGA]

[Blarg]

4 hours ago, red321 said:

Democrats, as well as Republicans, have failed miserably on this issue. 

Even independents but it's not all the shooters fault, Congress could have acted.

[Jason]

2 hours ago, Tank said:

saw this on FB today. i think this is something that @red321 proposed once upon a time. it's something i support fully.

Health requirements? 

[Blarg]

If you're not able to do the drop and roll, no gun license. 

[Jason]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths/five-myths-about-gun-violence/2017/10/06/c4536e44-a9ed-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.b505c38fa36b

 

 

[Spirit]

The only plan that will truly address the problem.

 

 

[gotbeer]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

Health requirements? 

I think it's the eye test, and the ability of doctors to declare a person is unfit to drive.  But kind of misleading, like sarcasm.

[gotbeer]

5 hours ago, Tank said:

saw this on FB today. i think this is something that @red321 proposed once upon a time. it's something i support fully.

All reasonable requirements.  But I was just at the DMV.  And it's a horrible idea that some of those people that got a license could easily also get guns.  Even scarier, is the thought that those DMV workers could be issuing the licenses.  

[Jason]

8 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

All reasonable requirements.  But I was just at the DMV.  And it's a horrible idea that some of those people that got a license could easily also get guns.  Even scarier, is the thought that those DMV workers could be issuing the licenses.  

For California you have to have a permit to carry a gun. It is renewed every 2 years and you must take updated training and qualification. They also inspect your firearms as you can only carry the specific firearm(s) you qualify with.  As far as gun training and insurance, you are a fool to carry a gun and not have that. Even if you shoot someone in self defense it's going to cost you if you have a legal battle afterwards. 

[gotbeer]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

For California you have to have a permit to carry a gun. It is renewed every 2 years and you must take updated training and qualification. They also inspect your firearms as you can only carry the specific firearm(s) you qualify with.  As far as gun training and insurance, you are a fool to carry a gun and not have that. Even if you shoot someone in self defense it's going to cost you if you have a legal battle afterwards. 

 

For a CCW right?  And from what I understand, it's difficult to impossible to get one in LA/CA?  

[Jason]

9 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

 

For a CCW right?  And from what I understand, it's difficult to impossible to get one in LA/CA?  

They are given out by the county sheriff or local PD. Yes, LA and most bay area counties are near impossible. Most of the other counties will issue with some good cause but it varies. I'm in San Bernardino County and it's relatively easy to get one. The sheriff accepts defense of myself and family as good cause. They did a thorough background check and even spoke to all my neighbors.  I support national reciprocity that would place minimum federal guidelines that way states can't restrict your rights and other states be to lax in giving out permits. 

[gotbeer]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

They are given out by the county sheriff or local PD. Yes, LA and most bay area counties are near impossible. Most of the other counties will issue with some good cause but it varies. I'm in San Bernardino County and it's relatively easy to get one. The sheriff accepts defense of myself and family as good cause. They did a thorough background check and even spoke to all my neighbors.  I support national reciprocity that would place minimum federal guidelines that way states can't restrict your rights and other states be to lax in giving out permits. 

Didn't realize they were easy to get in SB county.  So what's the rule, only good in the city/county?  Could you carry if you go to LA?

[Jason]

15 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Didn't realize they were easy to get in SB county.  So what's the rule, only good in the city/county?  Could you carry if you go to LA?

San Bernardino, Kern, Fresno and Tulare counties are the easiest to get them in. Good anywhere in the State of California. Obviously certain areas like federal buildings and schools are illegal for CCW.

[Tank]

12 hours ago, Jason said:

For California you have to have a permit to carry a gun. It is renewed every 2 years and you must take updated training and qualification. They also inspect your firearms as you can only carry the specific firearm(s) you qualify with.  As far as gun training and insurance, you are a fool to carry a gun and not have that. Even if you shoot someone in self defense it's going to cost you if you have a legal battle afterwards. 

i'd like to see these conditions apply for everyone who owns a gun, not just those wanting a CCW.

found out yesterday one of my former students has been denied several times for a CCW. he's pissed off about it, too, and doesn't understand why he was denied. judging by his comments to me yesterday, it seems like a wise decision that he's been denied.