Thoughts and Prayers

[Jason]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

It takes a guy like this for people to even talk about mental illness.... makes sense considering all the other narratives are void in this case but damn, what do people think the source of almost all of this is?

In this case it’s the US failing our veterans. 

[floplag]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

In this case it’s the US failing our veterans. 

Which isnt really any different than failing regular citizens.  For me its always been about root causes, not symptoms, this is a huge factor in almost all of them as far as im concerned.

[Thomas]

3 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

 There’s no argument that will convince me otherwise.  

You sure you're not a Trump voter?

[Thomas]

2 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

 You’re in good shape with your guns. 

Trump will be your greatest resource in the revocation of the 2nd amendment in maybe 7-10 years. 

[UndertheHalo]

11 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Trump will be your greatest resource in the revocation of the 2nd amendment in maybe 7-10 years. 

Presumably at that point we’ll be looking forward to Don Jr’s. coronation. 

[Thomas]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Presumably at that point we’ll be looking forward to Don Jr’s. coronation. 

Heh. Sr. didn't spend all that time and effort gaining control of this country only to see Jr. fuck it all up. Jr. gets the Fredo treatment. No, not the rowboat treatment. The getting passed over treatment. Maybe gets a casino to run. Maybe.

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

Heh. Sr. didn't spend all that time and effort gaining control of this country only to see Jr. F*ck it all up. Jr. gets the Fredo treatment. No, not the rowboat treatment. The getting passed over treatment. Maybe gets a casino to run. Maybe.

You’re right,  it’ll probably be ivanka. 

[Thomas]

3 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

You’re right,  it’ll probably be ivanka. 

Then not only in his lifetime does he get to be the supreme executive of this country, but have gets to have loud passionate sex with the supreme executive of this country.

[arch stanton]

13 hours ago, Thomas said:

After what point does the world turn into a constant battlefield where you're always being shot at?

Last Tuesday?

[arch stanton]

7 hours ago, Tank said:

maybe combat vets who come home with PTSD shouldn't be allowed to purchase/own guns until cleared medically.

i know that idea might upset a few folks here, but there's a mental health issue in some of these shootings that has to be dealt with. maybe this is a starting point, and maybe this can be done without infringing on someone's rights.

Please push this through so I can start my new black market business. The DoD will supply me with a fabulous client list 

[yk9001]

14 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Heres a story from this last week.

A batshit crazy guy has lived with mom all his life. Hes in his 50s now, elderly mom died earlier this year. He went off the deep end.

Weve been to the house 50 or so times since she died a few months ago. Neighbors basically being held hostage. He comes out to his driveway, sets up a guitar and an amp, blasts music for 10 minutes, then goes inside. We show up, he wont answer the door.

Tire screech marks all throught the neighborhood. All from him. Driving like an asshole, trying to mess with everyone. Dumps trash all over the street, throughout the neighborhood.  Wears old camo fatigues. Looks like a methed out 50 something year old grateful dead guy. Always a dick when he does talk to us, but never anything we could do about it.

On a few occasions hes been seen with a gun in a holster. Obviously this gets our attention. Problem is, its in the holster all the time...never points it at anyone...and is always in his garage (door open) when he does it.

 No crime.

Anyway, we finally put our undercover guys on it. He could always spot them. So we set up a vehicle with a camera down the street...trying to record all the petty crap he does every day, in order to try and make a case against him (because we cant enforce petty stuff we dont witness).

So a few days ago, we stopped him, and were able to arrest him for carrying the concealed pistol. Im not sure about the specifics, but hes not allowed to own firearms. Wish i had more details, but that never came up the times i had been there and ran him.

Anyway, we did a search of his home. (I wasnt there, not sure why they searched the home, i assume a warrant, but maybe welfare check / 5150).

House was trashed. Batshit crazy spray paint over everything in the house. Lots of it "187 pigs", but also other ramblings.

Then we found a crawl space under the house....in all the vents, he had reinforced with half assed sandbags (with views to the street...where we always walk up from). 

He also barricaded all the windows in the house, with furniture, trash, etc.

He also had scoped rifles left next to a few of the upstairs windows...and we recovered an AR and a AK. Dont have specifics on if he bought them legal, why he cant own guns, etc etc. 

 But yeah.....id love to have been able to put that dude away months ago. But couldnt for noise complaints.

 

Where is your beat?

[yk9001]

15 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

In stuff like this, there is no perfect solution. Unless were thinking of going to 1940s germany route.

[yk9001]

17 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

 

Sorry about your kid and all, but we need to have a well regulated militia!!!

[yk9001]

12 hours ago, Jason said:

In this case it’s the US failing our veterans. 

Dude was assaulting his track coach when he was in high school.  That's OUR fault?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-thousand-oaks-shooting-school-assault-20181109-story.html

 

 

Colell says administrators and other coaches pressured her to allow Long back on the team, telling her it could negatively affect his application to the Marines. The Marines “would save this kid,” Colell says one coach told her.

[yk9001]

Per the LA Times comments:

Misogyny and violence towards women seems to be a common thread among these terrorists.

Misogyny runs high here at this board.  Also plenty of "well regulated militia" guys. I am trying to figure out who here is going to crack.

[Blarg]

Do you and Rico go to the same Gynecologists?

[yk9001]

Even the batshit crazy shooter had figured it out.  Shoot anyone you want because this country is full of small dicked men who need their guns in order to get a boner.

Shoot up everyone, throw a few thoughts and prayers, make sure the NRA keeps paying off politicians, and we can keep doing this dance until we run out of victims to shoot.

 

Authorities have identified a Facebook post believed to have been made by the shooter around the time of the attack, according to a law enforcement official familiar with the ongoing investigation.

In it, the writer says: "I hope people call me insane... (laughing emojis).. wouldn't that just be a big ball of irony? Yeah.. I'm insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is 'hopes and prayers'.. or 'keep you in my thoughts'... every time... and wonder why these keep happening..."

[Taylor]

Does anyone here think the NRA has genuinely noble intentions? If they went away, would our country be worse off?

[yk9001]

32 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Does anyone here think the NRA has genuinely noble intentions? If they went away, would our country be worse off?

You'll be glad to know that the NRA made sure that the Thousand Oaks killer used a legally-purchased weapon to kill those people.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/claudiarosenbaum/thousand-oaks-shooter-high-capacity-magazine

[Thomas]

28 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Does anyone here think the NRA has genuinely noble intentions? If they went away, would our country be worse off?

Do you define the NRA as solely its leadership or as a whole with its included membership? Because depending it goes from an easy answer to a much more complex one.

[Tank]

15 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Like the driven snow.

But haggard white. Like desert white.

so more of an eggshell or taupe?

[yk9001]

Yeah, are you counting that NRA membership includes free admission to NRA’s Guns, Gear & Outfitter Show?

[yk9001]

From the NRA website

Today, the NRA stands as America’s oldest civil rights organization. 

[Tank]

16 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Per the first part, Tanker, i completely agree...but...how exactly do you do that? Meaning, PTSD isnt a black and white thing. Sometimes it wont show up for years. You can come home totally at peace with what youve seen or done, but years later have it start to resurface. 

Think about your school. There are kids there who have had really bad things happen to them at home...but you dont know it, because they dont tell you. Then years later they have problems as adults.

Per the second part, Im all for it. I would love to take all the crazy people I come across at work and put them away somewhere, especially the ones we know are ticking time bombs. 

But i cant. I can only enforce laws, not make them..

valid points, ocho. clearly, there's no simple or quick solution to this.

i didn't realize there was a potential gap in time for PTSD to show up. that would certainly complicate the ability to not only diagnose but treat/disarm.

[Tank]

16 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

It’s not a starting point.  Nothing is going to happen or change.  Rinse; wash, repeat. 

as others have said, if that kid shooting up all those 6 year olds in the sandy hook shooting didn't move the needle, it's not likely anything will.

still surprised that bump stocks continue to be available after las vegas.

nothing changes. both sides entrenched stronger and deeper than ever.