Trades/trade deadline countdown thread

[Mark68]

Here's the entire article from MLBTR in which Fletcher's & Gonzalez' tweets are mentioned:

Angels Open To Adding Rental Hitters, Righty Bats

By Steve Adams [July 22, 2015 at 8:24pm CDT]

The Angels prefer to acquire a bat that is controlled beyond the 2015 season, but they’re warming to the idea of acquiring a rental, Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com tweets. That includes Yoenis Cespedes, though the cost of acquisition will obviously be key to any deal. At the very least, he adds, they’d like to add a bench piece they’re comfortable starting a couple of times per week.

Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register also hears that the Angels are opening up to not only the idea of rental players, but also to the idea of adding a right-handed bat. (Previously, the Angels have been said to prefer left-handed bats due to the heavily right-handed nature of their lineup.) According to Fletcher, the only player that seems off limits in the Angels’ minor league system is Sean Newcomb. Pitchers Chris Ellis and Nate Smith — two of the club’s top-ranked prospects — could potentially be had. Fletcher adds (via Twitter) that Andrew Heaney is probably not available either.

Gonzalez wrote yesterday that the Angels are seeking both a leadoff hitter and a power bat to slot in fifth behind Mike Trout and Albert Pujols in the batting order, though they may not be able to acquire both. In a followup tweet to the article, Gonzalez says he’s getting the sense that the Angels would prefer the power bat. David Freese has spent the bulk of the time hitting fifth in Anaheim this season but has batted a fairly pedestrian .240/.308/.409.

As for the leadoff role, Johnny Giavotella has assumed that spot lately but struggled there, and his .261/.315/.349 batting line is below the league average. The Angels, according to Gonzalez, are monitoring Chase Utley‘s rehab as a possible alternative. However, they’d only have true interest were the cost “minimal” and should Utley begin to show his old form at the plate. (Utley, of course, is a potential August trade candidate, as one would think his contract, injury troubles and lack of production make him a lock to clear trade waivers.)

Ben Revere has been oft-connected to the Angels in the past, as has Cincinnati’s Jay Bruce. Gonzalez speculates (on Twitter), too, that Gerardo Parra of the Brewers might be a nice rental piece for the Angels.

[ten ocho recon scout]

He's been reading this board as everyone has been saying the same thing since he ASB.

Are you sure Jose didn't just suggest moving July after August on the calendar, not the trade deadline.

push the trade deadline back long enough, so that when you can make a trade to win, then good trades can happen for you too

[ten ocho recon scout]

LOL...was gonna mention utley when strad mentioned randy winn yesterday...dear god i hope not

[Dick B Back]

Here's the entire article from MLBTR in which Fletcher's & Gonzalez' tweets are mentioned: Angels Open To Adding Rental Hitters, Righty Bats

By Steve Adams [July 22, 2015 at 8:24pm CDT]

The Angels prefer to acquire a bat that is controlled beyond the 2015 season, but they’re warming to the idea of acquiring a rental, Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com tweets. That includes Yoenis Cespedes, though the cost of acquisition will obviously be key to any deal. At the very least, he adds, they’d like to add a bench piece they’re comfortable starting a couple of times per week.

Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register also hears that the Angels are opening up to not only the idea of rental players, but also to the idea of adding a right-handed bat. (Previously, the Angels have been said to prefer left-handed bats due to the heavily right-handed nature of their lineup.) According to Fletcher, the only player that seems off limits in the Angels’ minor league system is Sean Newcomb. Pitchers Chris Ellis and Nate Smith — two of the club’s top-ranked prospects — could potentially be had. Fletcher adds (via Twitter) that Andrew Heaney is probably not available either.

Gonzalez wrote yesterday that the Angels are seeking both a leadoff hitter and a power bat to slot in fifth behind Mike Trout and Albert Pujols in the batting order, though they may not be able to acquire both. In a followup tweet to the article, Gonzalez says he’s getting the sense that the Angels would prefer the power bat. David Freese has spent the bulk of the time hitting fifth in Anaheim this season but has batted a fairly pedestrian .240/.308/.409.

As for the leadoff role, Johnny Giavotella has assumed that spot lately but struggled there, and his .261/.315/.349 batting line is below the league average. The Angels, according to Gonzalez, are monitoring Chase Utley‘s rehab as a possible alternative. However, they’d only have true interest were the cost “minimal” and should Utley begin to show his old form at the plate. (Utley, of course, is a potential August trade candidate, as one would think his contract, injury troubles and lack of production make him a lock to clear trade waivers.)

Ben Revere has been oft-connected to the Angels in the past, as has Cincinnati’s Jay Bruce. Gonzalez speculates (on Twitter), too, that Gerardo Parra of the Brewers might be a nice rental piece for the Angels.

Quotable quote of the year: "Andrew Heaney is probably not available either."

[TroutField]

LOLing at Utley. Giavotella has done a great job even though the numbers don't show it. If we get a good left fielder we can take the lack of production from 2nd.

[Lou]

LOLing at Utley. Giavotella has done a great job even though the numbers don't show it. If we get a good left fielder we can take the lack of production from 2nd.

If his numbers don't show it, how is it that he's doing a great job?

[Guest]

 

Good point. Close division races make for a more exciting season, but I do think the addition of the 2nd wild card has worsened the game.

 

After the game yesterday, I thought Jose Mota made a great point about how the trade deadline needs to be pushed back to further in the season due to there now being two Wild Card teams.  I think he is 100% correct.

 

I think the second wild card needs to be eliminated. Having that in the first place was a solution in search of a problem. At the very least if it must be kept (and it will as more owners feel they are in hte playoff hunt now), the wild card needs to be a best of three series, all at the home park of the top seeded team. Then the divisional round needs to be increased to 7 games.

 

Before anyone objects "no baseball in December", the season schedule can be shortened by 4 days by having a doubleheader once a month, and the overall workload for the year can be reduced by eliminating some games from the already too long spring training schedule. 

[TroutField]

If his numbers don't show it, how is it that he's doing a great job?

The countless clutch RBIs earlier in the year to either tie or give us the lead and his defense has been better than expected.

[tomsred]

If his numbers don't show it, how is it that he's doing a great job?

 

He shows up to work on time, and has to put up with Aybar.

[Lou]

The countless clutch RBIs earlier in the year to either tie or give us the lead and his defense has been better than expected.

Those are included in his numbers

[AngelsLakersFan]

I dream someday it will be like the NHL: 8 playoff teams in each league. 2 division series rounds, then the ALCS/NLCS, then WS.

 

That's one of the few things that has the power to make me stop watching baseball.

[AngelsLakersFan]

Ehhhhhhh. I'd give up very little to get Markakis. He'd be a great leadoff candidate but he is by no means a solution to the team's offensive woes. Plus, his power numbers have been declining steadily for years.

 

I wonder if the Braves would be willing to let him go for cheap. At that salary he doesn't have much excess value. I'm not sure of the Braves situation, if they are the type of team who might just be happy with getting a contract off the books. He'd be a decent upgrade here.

[TroutField]

Those are included in his numbers

Cool so you know how stats work.

[Lou]

Cool so you know how stats work.

Right, and as you stated, those numbers don't show he's been great.

So why don't you share with us just exactly what it is that led you to the

conclusion that he is.

[Angel Oracle]

With the high wall in RF, gotta think Markakis would be gunning for 50 doubles a year here. He's also likely end up with one of the strangest batting lines ever.

.290/.380 50 DB 0 triples 0 HR.

What?

.

That would still produce a .770 OPS over 500 at bats, pretty solid.

[Blarg]

Jason Vargas blew his elbow out yesterday so KC is back to Blanton as a starter and or recalling wild thing Ventura to piss off the league some more. They will be prospective buyers but the Angels are not going to want to help them.

[nando714]

Who will make the first deadline move?

My money is on Houston. Getting the SP notre dame Wr from the white sox

[Blarg]

It will be interesting to see if the Angels don't just pass on paying too much for average talent in order to balance out a poor preseason move or two.

[Blarg]

Just to defuse the fire before it gets out of hand, Hamilton is hitting .234/284/434 and those numbers have been steadily falling.

Edited July 23, 2015 by notti

[CanadianHalo]

Angels want a bench/utility player and now with Freese getting hurt I wonder what the Sox would want for Brock Holt. He'd be the ultimate utility guy, left handed hitter and could start at third until Freese is back.

Brock Holt + Yoenis Cespedes PLEASE!!!

[Richard]

Kazmir traded to Houston

[nando714]

Who will make the first deadline move?

My money is on Houston. Getting the SP notre dame Wr from the white sox

Hey look at me! I was half right

[TroutField]

Right, and as you stated, those numbers don't show he's been great.

So why don't you share with us just exactly what it is that led you to the

conclusion that he is.

For the production we have gotten from Heaney and the late and close numbers for Giavotella have been off the charts, I would say it was a good trade and Giavotella has done a good job. Sorry if you can't realize that. Go over to fan graphs and look at his clutch stats.

[fan_since79]

Angels want a bench/utility player and now with Freese getting hurt I wonder what the Sox would want for Brock Holt. He'd be the ultimate utility guy, left handed hitter and could start at third until Freese is back.

Brock Holt + Yoenis Cespedes PLEASE!!!

 

For Shoemaker and a prospect not named Newcomb. Let Boston rebuild around pitching. They'll need it.

[bloodbrother]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 18s18 seconds ago

#Padres officially are sellers. Venable, Benoit also could move, along with Kimbrel and any of SPs, with Ross perhaps least likely.

 

 

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 51s51 seconds ago

#Padres biggest needs: SS and CF.

 

 

 

Featherston for Benoit. DO IT