Pete Rose on Trout

[fan_since79]

489 reasons. That is 120 more strikeouts that Joe DiMaggio's entire career. Since people want to measure him against the all time great center fielders, let's start here.

 

Crazy baseball fact: During his 56-game hitting streak in 1941, DiMaggio struck out a total of five times.

[Kenny]

Says, Pete Rose, someone who hasn't played baseball since long before Trout was born.

[yk9001]

I wonder if ol Dimaggio had to face specialists throwing 96 in the 7th; then a different one in the ninth.

 

This is all so stupid.

[Blarg]

I wonder if Trout was never shown a gym and how to work out, what nutritional supplements to use and had to have a part time job in the off season if he'd be as effective as a rookie in 1936 the year DiMaggio broke into the majors.

[meat]

Joe D broke into the bigs 11 years before Jackie Robinson and 20 years before the first Dominican player.  Apples and oranges.

[eaterfan]

the question isn't how often Trout GIDP compared to how often he Ks if you are deciding whether it's better to put the ball in play.

The argument was mostly reaching on an error + advancing runners compared to double plays.

But even that is a little distorted because Ross's point was about the modern game and not just Trout. It's how many double plays there are compared to how many guys reach on errors throughout the league.

[yk9001]

I wonder if Trout was never shown a gym and how to work out, what nutritional supplements to use and had to have a part time job in the off season if he'd be as effective as a rookie in 1936 the year DiMaggio broke into the majors.

As said previously, this is sooo stupid.

 

You are comparing a stat, strikeouts, from 70 years ago.  When the whole world has changed.

 

Its insane.

[Tank]

Crazy baseball fact: During his 56-game hitting streak in 1941, DiMaggio struck out a total of five times.

 

that's about the same number of times each week that stradling strikes out on singles night at appleby's.

[Blarg]

Joe D broke into the bigs 11 years before Jackie Robinson and 20 years before the first Dominican player.  Apples and oranges.

 

From 1947-1950 Joe DiMaggio had a higher OPS+ than Robinson. Apples and Apples, neither league had the DH rule.

[Stradling]

Joe DiMaggio probably didn't have to work in the off season.

[Blarg]

Says, Pete Rose, someone who hasn't played baseball since long before Trout was born.

 

The irony of this statement is amazing.

[ELEVEN]

Joe DiMaggio probably didn't have to work in the off season.

He married Marilyn Monroe. That seems exhausting in itself. Who had time for a job?

[Blarg]

 Joe DiMaggio probably didn't have to work in the off season.

[eligrba]

When does spring training begin?

[ten ocho recon scout]

All those can lead to a base on an error or moving a runner, so yes.

true, but also maybe a double play

[Blarg]

true, but also maybe a double play

 

Scout, when you come 5 pages late to a thread you probably should read to see if there are 5 duplicate responses.

 

[HaloMilliVanilli]

90 at bats ending with a ball put into play>90 at bats ending in K.  A percentage of those balls will turn into hits, errors, routine outs, double plays, etc., but at least in some percentage something positive would happen.  Nothing positive (OK, rarely) happens at the end of 50 or 90 K's.  I agree with Notti, Trout is capable of cutting down the K's (and I believe he will) and giving his speed a chance to do something positive.

Edited February 13, 2015 by HaloWHAM!

[Blarg]

When does spring training begin?

 

Obviously not soon enough. Tomorrow discuss what Harold Reynolds says about Trout.

[IEAngelsfan]

 

 Joe DiMaggio probably didn't have to work in the off season.

 

Why did you post a picture of Gomer Pyle?

[ten ocho recon scout]

Scout, when you come 5 pages late to a thread you probably should read to see if there are 5 duplicate responses.

lol, good point. Was at work all day

[DowningRules]

Shit it was Rico, thanks man.

 

Just because it needs to be pointed out:  Ricardo "Rico" Tubbs was James "Sonny" Crockett's detective partner on Miami Vice.

 

So, when all else fails, always defer to Rico. 

[Blarg]

Glad that is straightened out.

[arch stanton]

I can't believe it's 6 pages in and I have to do this math for you people. Take away 60 of those K's and assuming normal BABIP he gets about 18 more hits thus allowing Pujols to hit into 6 more DP's and Hamilton to wave at 18 more sliders thus giving the board 24 more things to bitch about. All for free.

[NrM]

489 reasons. That is 120 more strikeouts that Joe DiMaggio's entire career. Since people want to measure him against the all time great center fielders, let's start here.

when evaluating a player, you look at the entire package, not just one damn stat. Especially a stat that most gm's don't care about.

[Michifan]

So is Rose saying he wouldn't bet on Mike Trout?