Orange County Register: Angels GM Jerry Dipoto says no more likely moves; team ready for spring training

[AngelsWin.com]

SAN DIEGO – Depending on who you ask, the flurry of moves Jerry Dipoto made in the final hours of the winter meetings were either the end or the beginning.The Angels general manager cleared more than $8 million worth of payroll space by trading...

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[211275]

This is a joke right?

[Troutstanding]

This is a joke right?

Okay.

[211275]

Okay.

This team got swept out of the playoffs in embarrassing fashion and not only do you not get any better, you give up your solid, starting 2nd baseman? Pathetic. Truly pathetic. 

[seenoevil]

good job Jerry

[Troutstanding]

This team got swept out of the playoffs in embarrassing fashion and not only do you not get any better, you give up your solid, starting 2nd baseman? Pathetic. Truly pathetic. 

You couldn't possibly be that dense. You must be a troll. Good day.

[211275]

You couldn't possibly be that dense. You must be a troll. Good day.

Please enlighten me on how this team has improved then? Grant Green starting for Howie Kendrick? An unproven pitcher who has gone 0-3 in the majors and who throws a junk 90MPH fastball? 

Edited December 11, 2014 by MBell

[Troutstanding]

Please enlighten me on how this team has improved then? Grant Green starting for Howie Kendrick? An unproven pitcher who has gone 0-3 in the majors and who throws a junk 90MPH fastball? 

/Ignore

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

I don't believe we are done making moves.

[bloodbrother]

Please enlighten me on how this team has improved then? Grant Green starting for Howie Kendrick? An unproven pitcher who has gone 0-3 in the majors and who throws a junk 90MPH fastball? 

 

I'm sure you were saying the same thing last year with the 2 unproven arms they got back for Trumbo. How would they replace his 34 hr's and 100 RBI

 

....and then the team won 20 more games than last season.

 

Here's some ways they can improve(though kind of hard to improve from having the best record in MLB)

 

- Full season of Street as the closer + a deep pen. Should hold leads at a much better clip than they did to start the year last season with Frieri stinking it up

- Continued growth from Shoemaker and Calhoun. 2 players who finished up their first full seasons. Could see uptick in production from both

- Hamilton being useful.

- Cron/Krauss/??? taking reps at DH. I'll just say that they'll outproduce what Ibanez gave them for the first few months

- Heaney, a top prospect who is MLB ready, providing stability at the backend of the rotation in case CJ/Santiago falters

 

 

You can honestly go on and on. What if CJ Wilson rebounds? Quit focusing on 1 aspect of the team. 2B probably got worse, though who knows how much. I'd say that they don't have anybody on the roster who will provide the type of defense Howie brought at the 2B position, but their collection of bats could provide similar value with the bat that Howie did last year

[Brandon]

This team got swept out of the playoffs in embarrassing fashion and not only do you not get any better, you give up your solid, starting 2nd baseman? Pathetic. Truly pathetic. 

 

Not sure how losing 2/3 games in extras to the team 90 feet away from extending game 7 of the WS is embarrassing fashion.

[Thomas]

Nice clickbait article title. "If we are done" becomes "We are done" and "no likely moves for big money free agents" simply becomes "no likely moves"

[Chuck]

Not sure how losing 2/3 games in extras to the team 90 feet away from extending game 7 of the WS is embarrassing fashion.

 

Yeah, this guy is either dumb or troll. 

 

/Banned

[bloodbrother]

Not sure how losing 2/3 games in extras to the team 90 feet away from extending game 7 of the WS is embarrassing fashion.

 

It's also not good...well it's stupid really, to try to make evaluations on the team based on a 3 game sample size

 

they stunk in the playoffs. It sucked, but that's all it was.

[tdawg87]

This team got swept out of the playoffs in embarrassing fashion and not only do you not get any better, you give up your solid, starting 2nd baseman? Pathetic. Truly pathetic. 

 

[QuinlansMinion]

This team got swept out of the playoffs in embarrassing fashion and not only do you not get any better, you give up your solid, starting 2nd baseman? Pathetic. Truly pathetic. 

You mean the starting 2nd basemen who didnt do jack shit in the playoffs?  This post makes no sense.  

[Brandon]

Jumping back on topic, I wouldn't surprise if we were done. Hell, last week I was with some board members and we expected a quiet winter with minimal or depth type acquisitions.

 

I think we either get more depth stuff or deals like Howie where it falls on his lap to improve the team overall and for the long term. I don't think he's actively trying to wheel and deal. Team had the best record in baseball, no need to make dramatic additions or subtractions. 

[tdawg87]

Howie was worth 98.0 WAR in 2014.

[Troll Daddy]

Sounds like Dipoto is dealing for Cole Hamels with that statement. You could trade CJ for a reduced cost ...and a cost control pitcher and for kicks throw in Cron.

 

Hamels

Weaver

Richards

Shoey

???

[Troutstanding]

Sounds like Dipoto is dealing for Cole Hamels with that statement. You could trade CJ for a reduced cost ...and a cost control pitcher and for kicks throw in Cron.

 

Hamels

Weaver

Richards

Shoey

???

What would it take to get Hamels? I don't think the Angels have it. 

[Angelsjunky]

To play Devil's Advocate for a moment, I agree with MBell insofar as the Angels probably lost a win or two by replacing Howie with Green/Rutledge and Heaney won't make up the difference - in 2015, that is. So the Angels traded away a couple wins next year for many more down the line. I really like the trade, and what Jerry's been doing this offseason, but in that trade at least he carved a bit from next year to add to years to come.

 

As a side note, I'm starting to think more and more that this is the real Dipoto - that the Pujols and Hamilton moves were truly all Arte, and that left to his own devices Jerry never would have signed them.

[Troll Daddy]

WAR is a very flawed stat ... saying that the team may of lost a win or two doesn't make sense. Losing Howie effects every game played. When the A's traded Cespedes it affected more than a couple of games in a two month period.

 

Hopefully Dipoto will use the money saved to add a # 1 or 2 SP.

[mulwin444]

"As a side note, I'm starting to think more and more that this is the real Dipoto - that the Pujols and Hamilton moves were truly all Arte, and that left to his own devices Jerry never would have signed them."

 

Agree with this thought.  Seems out of character for a GM who has been focused on getting cost controlled talent to make those signings. 

[shizziejoe]

I'd be fine if Dipoto decides not to make any more trades/big free agent signings if we can get Moncada.  Our farm system is thin on position players

[Hubs]

Please enlighten me on how this team has improved then? Grant Green starting for Howie Kendrick? An unproven pitcher who has gone 0-3 in the majors and who throws a junk 90MPH fastball? 

 

Green has always hit in the minors, hopefully he'll break through in the majors. Likewise, Rutledge has always hit in the minors and hopefully will break through in the majors. At least one of them should, anyway.

 

And you clearly don't get what the Angels got in the trade. Andrew Heaney was the Marlins #1 prospect, and will move into the same slot in our organization. DiPoto said they'd have him for 6 seasons of control, because they started his clock in Miami last season, but if he doesn't get enough time in the majors this year, they can have him for 7 more likely.

 

He was the 9th pick of the 2012 draft. Can throw as hard as 97, but usually will throw his fastball in the 90-95 range. He has a smooth low effort, and repeatable delivery but a deceptive one. Supposedly has impeccable fastball control. But his best pitch is his slider, and also has a plus changeup. Entering last season he was ranked as the #30 overall prospect. This season I've seen him ranked 15th (granted that was a fantasy specific site). A comparable pitcher would be Jon Lester when he came up with Boston (not Lester now). He may be as good as Lester eventually, or he could just be CJ Wilson. Is that worth Kendrick?