Can Frieri be Trusted in any Situation?

[Guest]

I don't even feel comfortable with him pitching with a 5 run lead...(and neither does he, apparently).

 

What's his role at this point?

[rageous]

He needs to be sent down for assignment to work on things in the minors.

[tdawg87]

I'd trust him with my newborn child.

[Homebrewer]

He needs to be sent down for assignment to work on things in the minors.

He would be claimed by Oakland.

[Hubs]

His role is a DL stint. 

[moccasin]

It's got to be some kind of mechanics problem.

The question should  be, "Can Mike Butcher be trusted to fix him?"

[TobiasFunke]

He would be claimed by Oakland.

And be Gagne type

[Stradling]

This was the perfect situation to pitch him in, unless we plan on having a game where we are trailing by five runs soon? He has to pitch to get back to whatever he can be and he is better than this.

[tomsred]

He would be claimed by Oakland.

 

If he can't be fixed, by anyone, then that's a perfect place for him.  If there is any chance of a turn around this year for him, you look for places to build his confidence and straighten out any mechanical flaws.  Stradling is correct, today was the perfect situation; unfortunately for him the wrong result.

[Homebrewer]

If he can't be fixed, by anyone, then that's a perfect place for him.  If there is any chance of a turn around this year for him, you look for places to build his confidence and straighten out any mechanical flaws.  Stradling is correct, today was the perfect situation; unfortunately for him the wrong result.

From another thread:

 

Before today's game:

 

Frieri in the 8th: 6 innings, 0 runs, 0 walks, 1 hit

Frieri in the 9th: 21 innings, 17 runs, 7 walks, 27 hits, opponent slash line .310/.362/.632

 

And that's before today..add 3 more runs, a walk or two (don't remember) and increase his slash line against.

 

He doesn't need "fixing" any longer, it aint gonna happen. He needs to be used where he now belongs.

And he doesn't belong in the 9th inning. Period.

They are trying desperately and feverishly, over and over, to pound a square peg into a round hole.

It isn't working. Letting him try to fix himself in the 9th inning, in games that count, isn't working.

It isn't working.

Try something else fer chrissakes..

[nando714]

I hope the Phils would eat some money and we can get Paps!!!

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

In before Fletcher posts that he "only" has three blown saves.

[beatlesrule]

He can be trusted to put the cheese on the nachos.

[ukyah]

In before Fletcher posts that he "only" has three blown saves.

 

 

i was thinking the same thing. 

[tomsred]

Something has changed for Frieri, both mechanically and mentally, I would like to know exactly what that is, but I don't.  He has the highest save percentage of any Angels closer in history, probably keeping him out of games that are anywhere near close for awhile (regardless of inning) is a good idea, but eventually the team will have to see if he can eventually handle any pressure situation (regardless of inning) at all.  If he can't, then it will be time to jettison and move on to someone completely new.  They have to go outside for more help in the bullpen, I just hope I don't throw up when I find out who they had to give up for that outside help. 

Edited June 27, 2014 by tomsred

[Taylor]

I hope the Phils would eat some money and we can get Paps!!!

 

I would be pissed if Papsmear was on this team. I don't know if I could root for him. 

[Troll Daddy]

I still trust Frieri but I don't know if he trust himself. He needs to step back a little for now ... today was a perfect opportunity for him with a five run lead, oh well. I don't believe there is anyone here that wants him to be DFA just yet.

[Hollyw00d]

6th inning, 7th inning.  Bottom of the order.  he can handle that.

 

 

I think.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Hollyw00d

[Angelsjunky]

Response to the original question: No.

Edited June 27, 2014 by Angelsjunky

[tomsred]

Here are some interesting career statistics on the top 5 Angels closers (when ranked by number of saves).  Their career save percentage is shown in parenthesis.  It doesn't support any decision on how to currently use Frieri (this is a what have you done recently, and how will you perform in the future, discussion).

 

1.  Percival 316 saves (86.3%)

2.  Rodriquez 208 saves (86.3%)

3.  Harvey 126 saves (81.8%)

4.  Frieri 71 saves (87.7%)

5.  Fuentes 71 saves (86.5%)

[stormngt]

Frieri had no confidence in himself right now. It showed in his eyes today. He still can be an effective closer but for his sake let's keep him in less stressful situations for the rest of the year. I remember when KRod lost his set up role to donnely. It took pressure off him and he was able to bounce back the next year.

[Kenny]

He would be claimed by Oakland.

Is that a bad thing?

Him blowing a few games for the A's would be the best thing he'd do for the Angels in two seasons.

[Docwaukee]

It concerns me that he velo has dropped to 92/93 for the last couple of games.  Overall though, they used him well today.  Maybe one too many batters.  Again, if you bring him in and he's not looking good, you take him out.  He's never been able to ham and egg it.  He either has the stuff that day or he doesn't.  

 

I do think he's having a mechanical or injury issue right now though.  Fastball 93 and straight.  Used to be 95 with some movement. 

[Thomas]

[JarsOfClay]

Here are some interesting career statistics on the top 5 Angels closers (when ranked by number of saves).  Their career save percentage is shown in parenthesis.  It doesn't support any decision on how to currently use Frieri (this is a what have you done recently, and how will you perform in the future, discussion).

 

1.  Percival 316 saves (86.3%)

2.  Rodriquez 208 saves (86.3%)

3.  Harvey 126 saves (81.8%)

4.  Frieri 71 saves (87.7%)

5.  Fuentes 71 saves (86.5%)

 

games like today show why save pct doesnt matter.   he didnt get a blown save, but he nearly blew the game.  surely you agree that blowing a 5 run lead is worse than blowing a 3 run lead?  he blew a 4 run lead in atlanta as well which didnt count toward his save pct, so why do you care so much about save pct...

Edited June 27, 2014 by JarsOfClay