Nathan likes Angels, Tigers, Yankees

[Stradling]

I don't think they are against signing him, I think it is more of an opportunity cost type of thing. If we only have a certain amount of cash available they don't want it spent on him.

[Hubs]

A solid closer helps more than any rotation add that wouldn't cost us the farm.

 

The pen allowed 243 runs, which is 80 more than in 2002. In more innings yes, but that's why I think they need veteran starters over young guys.

[Inside Pitch]

Are there really people who are against signing Nathan?

 

I'm against paying for a FA closer in general.  10+ Mil for 50-60 innings of work is rough for this team currently.

 

There is little denying the pen needs help.

Edited November 19, 2013 by Inside Pitch

[Quinlanforthewin]

Dude is gonna be 39.  I'd hope we would have learned our lesson on high priced free agents on the wrong side of 30. 

[jshep]

"Joe Nathan likes teams with closer vacancies and histories of handing out questionable amounts of money to FAs"

[tennischmp]

I don't think they are against signing him, I think it is more of an opportunity cost type of thing. If we only have a certain amount of cash available they don't want it spent on him.

Yea too bad Wells is eating up a bunch of that certain amount of cash they have available

[Taylor]

 

@JimBowdenESPNxm 8m

Joe Nathan told us "I had a quick little text w/ Torii Hunter, he was trying to make sure I keep Detroit in my sights" @tigers #Tigers

 

 

Seriously, Torii is the best team promoter in baseball.  The guy needs to move into the front office somewhere when he retires. 

 

 

To be fair, he wasn't good at bringing in anyone when he was on the Angels.

[Tank]

I'd rather have weezy. Of course I'm not taking into account contracts and performance, but I'd still rather have weez

 

 

i'm pretty sure she's moved on up to that dee-luxe apartment in the sky-y-y.

[Tank]

i'd enjoy seeing nathan anchor our bullpen for the next couple of years. base salary of $5 mil plus lots of incentives.

[WallyWorld]

the guy was 43 for 46 in save opportunities, had an ERA of 1.39, and a WHIP under 1.  Safe to assume he's going to get way more than $5M/yr base salary.

[Brent Maguire]

I've changed my mind on wanting Nathan. Get two other guys for less money and it's way better for what we're trying to accomplish this offseason.

[Angel Oracle]

I agree. Ernesto was pretty good in the closer role last year. He just had a rough stretch and maybe with a year of experience under his belt he is due for a very solid season

Two horrible stretches, and I don't trust him.

We DESPERATELY need a RELIABLE reliever.

Edited November 19, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[Scott34]

Two horrible stretches, and I don't trust him.

We DESPERATELY need a RELIABLE reliever.

 

His name is Mike Morin/Sean Burnett.

 

But yes, I would like to add Joe Smith or Matt Belisle.  I think Belisle would kick ass for us.

[disarcina]

^{I may regret this if it happens, but I wouldn't mind the Halos opening the wallet for Nathan.}

 

^{We had issues at closer last year, this would allow Nathan to close and to push Fieri (spelled wrong) to set up and allow the rest of the pen to provide some depth.}

 

^{Nathan was good for Texas this year in a tough ballpark to pitch in.}

[YouthofToday]

Spend $$ on rotation, not a 50-60 inning pitcher.

[VariousCrap]

I'd prefer Wilson over Nathan.

 

He would cost less as well.

[AngelsFaninGA]

I am categorically opposed to signing a 39-year-old closer to a multiyear deal at 10+ mil a year unless that closer's name is Mariano Rivera. Signing closers to big money is a bad enough idea, but signing 39-year-old closers is even worse. 

[Docwaukee]

I'm a big fan of lock down pens.  Always have been.  I think the way WAR is calculated for relievers is incorrect and makes people think that spending on pens is a bad idea when it may not be. 

 

if you've got a bunch of young arms in your farm system, then go ahead and let them stock the pen.  When the farm is bare and you are relying on guys like Jepsen and Gutierrez, then spending money on late inning arms provides a legitimate upgrade imo. 

 

Nathan would be a great pickup for this team. 

[Corona]

I agree. Ernesto was pretty good in the closer role last year. He just had a rough stretch and maybe with a year of experience under his belt he is due for a very solid season

Ernesto has one pitch and he cant even control it 50% of the time. I'm skeptical as having him as a closer again.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Nathan turns 39 on Friday. That is scary territory for a closer not named Mariano Rivera.

[Brandon]

I like it on a one or two year deal. It's a tremendous need and mainly knocks everyone back a peg so the pen ends up being Burnett, Frieri, then Nathan.

I was spoiled with the 2002 pen and always wanted that same edge since. It's huge.

[Docwaukee]

there is nothing worse than giving up a lead yet almost nearly as frustrating is when you are built on offense and you turn a 1 or 2 run deficit into a 3-4 run deficit so that offense then has no chance. 

 

it's a good thing for the astros, because if not for them the halos would have the worst pen in the AL over the past four years. 

 

Again, I just don't understand the theory of not addressing significant deficiencies of the pen when you don't have internal possibilities.

[Brent Maguire]

His name is Mike Morin/Sean Burnett.

 

But yes, I would like to add Joe Smith or Matt Belisle.  I think Belisle would kick ass for us.

Belisle would be awesome. He's been a beast in a huge hitters park for the past few years. 

 

4.13 K/BB ratio? Sign me up. 

[Mark68]

In real baseball as in fantasy...don't buy saves.

[WallyWorld]

In real baseball as in fantasy...don't buy saves.

 

but you're not just buying saves with Nathan - you're buying (based on past numbers) a great WHIP and K/BB ratio, and a guy who has done it for years.  The "don't buy saves" thing is more about guys who have high saves totals because of a lot of opportunities, but who have poor peripherals.  I don't think it applies to Nathan.