Obamacare/Trumpcare Horror Stories

[Jason]

15 minutes ago, Lou said:

that's a great benefit to have. iirc, mom's portion of the ambulance cost is $150, which I'll happily pay over having to wait. I'll have to pull out the bill and see exactly how much the total charge for that scenic 3.2 mile ride came out to 

My guess it's between $800-$1,000

[Adam]

At least 

[Lou]

55 minutes ago, Angels N Skins said:

My guess it's between $800-$1,000

 

Here's some interesting info.  Her medical costs from one of her doctors (she has several) for the first 8 months of 2016 is $119,030.41 

That's basically a Cam Bedrosian and Jett Bandy. 

[Lou]

I also noticed a sh*tload more honkies in the ER. 

F'n minorities 

[ABC]

12 hours ago, Lou said:

anyone been to an ER lately? it's a clusterf*ck

 

 

I've mentioned this before...Ronald Reagan @ UCLA is awesome. Zero wait, new building and valet. Every time.

[Lhalo]

19 hours ago, Lou said:

anyone been to an ER lately? it's a clusterf*ck

Last time I was there kids were trying to sell me piñatas and chicle. 

[Tank]

one of the guys who has taught us CPR at my school said always tell them it's your heart. heart patients go almostly immediately into an exam room, well ahead of the crowd.

you can also go to an urgent care center if you have a good one close by. less crowded and far lower wait time.

[Brandon]

Is this the FW:::::: or what people are really paying for healthcare? For fucks sake if this is true.

[nate]

If it is a family of five then yes.  They are paying that with our without Obamacare btw, most companies just subsidize much of the cost.

[fan_since79]

[Blarg]

Affordable.

[gotbeer]

Come on.  Only a 116% increase.  They don't have to pay state income taxes, so they have money to spare.

[fan_since79]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacares-failures-give-republicans-new-life-2016-10-28

It was President Barack Obama himself, fittingly enough, who provided the best metaphor for the fate of his signature health-care reform when he compared it to a smartphone catching fire and getting pulled from the market.

He didn’t really mean it that way, but that’s how it came out. In a speech last week in Miami, Obama said the failing Affordable Care Act, like most smartphones, only needed a few fixes to be successful.

“When one of these companies comes out with a new smartphone and it had a few bugs, what do they do? They fix it,” Obama said. “They upgrade — unless it catches fire, and they just—then they pull it off the market. But you don’t go back to using a rotary phone.”

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Just days later, when the administration announced that health-insurance premiums under Obamacare will rise an average 25% next year in the benchmark “Silver” plan, the moment came when Obamacare caught fire and became a product ready to be yanked from the market.

Not only are premiums due to skyrocket — in Arizona the increase will be more than 100% — deductibles will be rising to levels that make a mockery of “affordable” and even rob the word “insurance” of much of its meaning.

The so-called Bronze plans will carry deductibles for families of more than $12,000 on average, in addition to premiums. Why wouldn’t a healthy young person forgo that kind of “insurance” and happily pay the $700 or so fine for not signing up for a health plan? (Another Democratic suggestion to increase the penalty is not likely to endear the party to much-sought after younger voters.)

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

I'm a 27-year-old living in Colorado. Score!

[Taylor]

But I get insurance through my employer, so it doesn't matter. Thanks, Obama!

[Lou]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

But I get insurance through my employer, so it doesn't matter. Thanks, Obama!

that's what a lot of people were saying

...before having their coverage slashed and/or having their hours cut so they are no longer full- time employees

[Lou]

On October 29, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Angels N Skins said:

My guess it's between $800-$1,000

 

On October 29, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Adam said:

At least 

$1374

oh, $104 of that amount was for transportation cost @ $26/mile.

they rounded up. 

[Lou]

On October 30, 2016 at 0:40 AM, #CF8 said:

I've mentioned this before...Ronald Reagan @ UCLA is awesome. Zero wait, new building and valet. Every time.

of course it's awesome, but I don't think mom would have enjoyed the 55-mile journey 

our hospital was like that before Obamacare, especially on weekdays. the time we went to the ER that I described occurred on a Tuesday @ 2:00 pm. yes, they have valet parking, too.

it's undergoing a $99.6 million expansion that will hopefully ease some of the problem. 

 

Edited October 31, 2016 by Lou

[Jim]

On 10/30/2016 at 9:35 AM, Tank said:

one of the guys who has taught us CPR at my school said always tell them it's your heart. heart patients go almostly immediately into an exam room, well ahead of the crowd.

you can also go to an urgent care center if you have a good one close by. less crowded and far lower wait time.

Yeah, I tried that. After hearing the same thing, I told the charge nurse I was having shortness of breathe and a little stiffness in my chest. Boom, I'm on my way to the back, past all those other suckers, yeah! Once they figured out my heart wasn't the problem, they slammed me back in that waiting room so fast, and not in a kindly manner. I'm pretty sure I spent an extra hour or two in the cooler due to my attempt to mislead. So, don't do that.

[gotbeer]

Mark Cuban: Obamacare is the world's biggest start-up, and Trump has no clue how it works

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He admits the increases in premiums are a concern for people in some states, but said it is mainly because of insurance companies that entered the market and underpriced the first several years, missing certain projections.

 

Good news everyone.  Those expensive insurance plans are because it's underpriced.  So this is just a standard market correction. 

[Jay]

Mark Cuban is in awe of how much attention Trump has been getting.

 

[Jay]

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/michael-buble-3-old-son-142653817.html

Michael Bublé’s 3-Year-Old Son Noah Has Cancer: ‘We Will Win This Battle, God Willing’

“We are devastated about the recent cancer diagnosis of our oldest son Noah who is currently undergoing treatment in the US,” Bublé, 41, and his wife Luisana Lopilato, 29, wrote in a statement posted to the Canadian singer’s Facebook page.

 

[Jim]

That is always very sad news. 

Why are they coming to the US? What could they possibly get here they couldn't there? 

[Taylor]

9 minutes ago, Jim said:

That is always very sad news. 

Why are they coming to the US? What could they possibly get here they couldn't there? 

I believe the U.S. healthcare system is better than Canada's, but to be fair, Michael Buble doesn't represent the average person seeking treatment for their family.

[Blarg]

On 11/4/2016 at 1:28 PM, Jim said:

That is always very sad news. 

Why are they coming to the US? What could they possibly get here they couldn't there? 

An appointment with a doctor.

Waiting times to see a primary physician, then a referral to a specialist would be the death of the child if it has an aggressive cancer.

This is the real world of socialized medicine, from the time of seeing a general practitioners  (which has its own waiting period) to a specialist can be 18 weeks. An MRI/CT scan (basic tests for cancer detection) up to another 10 weeks. Treatment can be another 9 week delay. Do the math, that is a death sentence for any aggressive cancer patient.

That is why Canadians come to the US for life threatening illness diagnosis and treatment.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/waiting-your-turn-wait-times-for-health-care-in-canada-2015-report