Angel Stadium deal is dead

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[jsnpritchett]

Lol.  What a trainwreck.

[Second Base]

Bad for all parties involved. Anaheim will be hard-pressed to attract local developers to come in and pay more than the 350 million Moreno was paying, particularly without guarantee the Angels will be there long term, as they're the main attraction on that side away from Disney. Moreno benefited as well, getting the opportunity to upgrade the stadium and build an entertainment district that benefits the Angels and Anaheim. 

Gotta figure this will get messy. 

[Lhalo]

1 minute ago, Second Base said:

Gotta figure this will get messy.

Lawsuits galore. 

[UndertheHalo]

Very sad 

[Lou]

Don't care.

[HaloSpurs]

Inevitable I feel like but still not good news 

[eligrba]

[Angels 1961]

After playing in Wrigley Field in 1961 halos played in Chavez Ravine in 1962. Maybe halos can play in Dodger Stadium after 2029. 

[Dtwncbad]

How can a city counsel just vote to kill a deal they already made?

 

 

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

After playing in Wrigley Field in 1961 halos played in Chavez Ravine in 1962. Maybe halos can play in Dodger Stadium after 2029. 

Or they could switch to basketball and play at Staples?

[Jay]

Hopefully all this corruption stuff doesn't touch the Angels.

[Dtwncbad]

5 minutes ago, Jay said:

Hopefully all this corruption stuff doesn't touch the Angels.

Unless they can demonstrate that Moreno was part of the corruption, I don’t really see how they can cancel the deal (punishing Moreno).

 

 

[Taylor]

7 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Very sad 

Ded

[Angel Dog and Beer]

I'm big mad. 

[DCAngelsFan]

The scene outside the Orange County courthouse as the lawyers catch wind of this ...

 

http://media.al.com/alphotos/photo/2014/03/-c5d67a1591eb03d2.jpg

At least someone will get something out of this debacle ...

[floplag]

I wonder where the Angels will be playing in '30... 
They just torpedoed Artes master plan, im guessing hes already contacting Vegas or other areas dying for baseball. 
Bravo Ana, when you lose the team, youll know who to blame. 

[Inside Pitch]

They will go to court and if that shit doesn't work out they will end up negotiating again, this time the city will be dragged down by being overly transparent and creating even more media noise as citizens demand top dollar and the council moves forward with a deal anyway because they are fully aware that the Angels have final say on anything that happens on the land.  In the meantime the fans have to continue to wait out a better stadium situation.

At least Dodger and Mariner fans are probably happy.

 

[eaterfan]

4 minutes ago, floplag said:

I wonder where the Angels will be playing in '30... 
They just torpedoed Artes master plan, im guessing hes already contacting Vegas or other areas dying for baseball. 
Bravo Ana, when you lose the team, youll know who to blame. 

Arte isn't going anywhere. Orange County has over 3,000,000 people and Las Vegas has 2,000,000. That's before you factor in the IE. The average household income is $94k in OC and $60k in Las Vegas. The TV market is 17 million compared to 2 million. No one in CA gives subsidies for stadiums. Arte isn't going anywhere and the city can't do much with the land. I think they end up with a better deal for the city. One that's not so bad it requires bribing officials to get it through. 

[Angelsfan1984]

3 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

How can a city counsel just vote to kill a deal they already made?

 

 

BAD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS. Its built into most contracts as an out. 

[Blarg]

15 minutes ago, eaterfan said:

Arte isn't going anywhere. Orange County has over 3,000,000 people and Las Vegas has 2,000,000. That's before you factor in the IE. The average household income is $94k in OC and $60k in Las Vegas. The TV market is 17 million compared to 2 million. No one in CA gives subsidies for stadiums. Arte isn't going anywhere and the city can't do much with the land. I think they end up with a better deal for the city. One that's not so bad it requires bribing officials to get it through. 

If he moves the team to Monterrey he owns all of Mexico and it's population of 128 million. Mexico would certainly subsidize a new indoor/outdoor stadium which would draw fans from the surrounding areas and create business opportunities. The television rights would have unrestricted reach to the entire country instead of shared revenue between viewership in the OC/LA market. I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been any team nested in Mexico since its an instant fan base. 

[Angel Oracle]

At least Monterrey is under 2000 feet altitude.

MLB even thinking of playing a few games in Mexico City at 7300 feet altitude is lame.

[eaterfan]

5 minutes ago, Blarg said:

If he moves the team to Monterrey he owns all of Mexico and it's population of 128 million. Mexico would certainly subsidize a new indoor/outdoor stadium which would draw fans from the surrounding areas and create business opportunities. The television rights would have unrestricted reach to the entire country instead of shared revenue between viewership in the OC/LA market. I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been any team nested in Mexico since its an instant fan base. 

He could move to Beijing and have all of China! Over a billion people there.

[Tank]

i'm glad the deal is dead. it means i won't have to worry about some developer taking away all the close parking spots.

[floplag]

38 minutes ago, eaterfan said:

Arte isn't going anywhere. Orange County has over 3,000,000 people and Las Vegas has 2,000,000. That's before you factor in the IE. The average household income is $94k in OC and $60k in Las Vegas. The TV market is 17 million compared to 2 million. No one in CA gives subsidies for stadiums. Arte isn't going anywhere and the city can't do much with the land. I think they end up with a better deal for the city. One that's not so bad it requires bribing officials to get it through. 

Time will tell, but we all know who Arte is and what he covets... losing this deal changes a lot of things.