Angels minor leaguers blast Arte Moreno for terrible living conditions

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, Taylor said:

So anything that happens to an adult is fair game, as long as it's in the context of their job?

That's a pretty broad statement. Give me some specifics.

[Stradling]

Are we comparing being a minor leaguer to other young adult occupations?  I highly doubt a minor leaguer can have a second job during the season.  They can have multiple jobs in the off season, which is five months, but my understanding is their season starts in mid February for spring training and they start to get paid in late April or May.  

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

That's a pretty broad statement. Give me some specifics.

How bout you tell us what you would do for minor leaguers if you owned an MLB team?  Would you operate just like Arte? 

[Lou]

Just now, Stradling said:

How bout you tell us what you would do for minor leaguers if you owned an MLB team?  Would you operate just like Arte? 

I have no idea what goes into operating a major league franchise. That's why I don't instruct owners how they should do it. 

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Are we comparing being a minor leaguer to other young adult occupations?  I highly doubt a minor leaguer can have a second job during the season.  They can have multiple jobs in the off season, which is five months, but my understanding is their season starts in mid February for spring training and they start to get paid in late April or May.  

Breedlove drives for Lyft. 

[Stradling]

Just now, Lou said:

I have no idea what goes into operating a major league franchise. That's why I don't instruct owners how they should do it. 

You know enough to have an educated enough opinion. Is this the area where you’d invest the bare minimum?  

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

You know enough to have an educated enough opinion. Is this the area where you’d invest the bare minimum?  

Personally? Perhaps not. But I don't know that's what is being done. I'm sure there are things that can be diminished to get to the bare minimum. 

[REDneck]

4 hours ago, Stradling said:

This is stupid. So he can’t complain about the conditions his team mates live under because he got $4 million?

It was a off the cuff remark buddy...Relax!

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[Taylor]

13 minutes ago, Lou said:

I have no idea what goes into operating a major league franchise. That's why I don't instruct owners how they should do it. 

Then maybe you shouldn't instruct minor leaguers about how to feel about it.

[Taylor]

Just now, Lou said:

I haven't. 

You basically are. You're saying they should stop whining because they make more than enough money to live relatively comfortably.

Why make such a judgment for them but be unwilling to make a judgment for the owners?

[Lou]

Just now, Taylor said:

Then maybe you shouldn't instruct minor leaguers about how to feel about it.

I haven't. I have voiced my opinion. I don't care about how they feel. 

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

You basically are. You're saying they should stop whining because they make more than enough money to live relatively comfortably.

Why make such a judgment for them but be unwilling to make a judgment for the owners?

When did I say they should stop whining? I don't care if they whine. I don't care if they find it hard to be a minor leaguer.  My position has always been that if they don't like the situation they're in, change it. 

Like an adult.

[Taylor]

Just now, Lou said:

When did I say they should stop whining? I don't care if they whine. I don't care if they find it hard to ve a minor leaguer.  My position has always been that if they don't like the situation they're in, change it. 

Like an adult.

Such a cop out perspective. It's not very easy for everyone to change their life situation. There are things about my current job I don't love, but if I wanted to change jobs or employers, it wouldn't be simple and quick.

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Such a cop out perspective. It's not very easy for everyone to change their life situation. There are things about my current job I don't love, but if I wanted to change jobs or employers, it wouldn't be simple and quick.

Irs not only about changing jobs. There are things that can be done to change your situation while remaining at your present occupation.

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

Irs not only about changing jobs.

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

That's funny.

Apologies for the bear comment.

[Dtwncbad]

14 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Such a cop out perspective. It's not very easy for everyone to change their life situation. There are things about my current job I don't love, but if I wanted to change jobs or employers, it wouldn't be simple and quick.

So once again the complaint is that something isn’t easy.

For the 20th time, welcome to life.

[Angels Fan Forever]

22 minutes ago, Lou said:

I don't care if they whine. I don't care if they find it hard to be a minor leaguer. 

So let's take the whiners off the table. Now it's only about the Angels.

Do you care if the Angels have an infrastructure that is as good or better than our competition?

MiLB development, scouting, front office analytics, international signings, etc.

[failos]

A thread where Lou is wrong about something. Frankly, it’s disappointing.

Edited July 24, 2021 by failos

[failos]

3 minutes ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

So let's take the whiners off the table. Now it's only about the Angels.

Do you care if the Angels have an infrastructure that is as good as or better than our competition?

MiLB development, scouting, front office analytics, international signings, etc.

He has no feelings

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

So let's take the whiners off the table. Now it's only about the Angels.

Do you care if the Angels have an infrastructure that is as good as or better than our competition?

MiLB development, scouting, front office analytics, international signings, etc.

Sure, why not?

I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, however. Things i truly think need improvement, i do what I can to make them better. 

[Lou]

Just now, failos said:

A thread where Lou is wrong about something. Frankly, it’s disappointing.

Where am I wrong? I've given my opinions. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

 

Unless there's a current or former minor leaguer who wants to weigh in with a different perspective, I'll go ahead and believe the minor leaguers who are speaking out.

FWIW, Ive spoken to 3 today about this article. All 3 said this is league wide, not an Angels thing.

[Lou]

1 minute ago, failos said:

He has no feelings

I care about people who actually need my help or concern.

Some guy playing minor league baseball doesn't register a blip on my radar. 

[Lou]

Just now, ten ocho recon scout said:

FWIW, Ive spoken to 3 today about this article. All 3 said this is league wide, not an Angels thing.

Thanks, Arte!