Sports book odds have Angels 3rd in the AL West

[jsnpritchett]

 

[ukyah]

who knows how it will turn out, that's why they play the games, but man i just feel like this offseason was just wasted opportunity after wasted opportunity. i don't see the angels making much noise as a contender, 80+ wins doesn't do anything for me, but i certainly hope to be wrong.

[Bronson]

3 minutes ago, ukyah said:

who knows how it will turn out, that's why they play the games, but man i just feel like this offseason was just wasted opportunity after wasted opportunity. i don't see the angels making much noise as a contender, 80+ wins doesn't do anything for me, but i certainly hope to be wrong.

What exactly was wasted? Did you just wanna get Trevor Bauer and.... nothing else... because that’s what would have happened if they went that route.

[gotbeer]

Food for thought.  San Diego is +300 for their division.  Angels are +325.  

I like San Diego's chances much better.

[Pancake Bear]

But the rotation!!!

 

 

In all seriousness, I'm skeptical of our chances in the playoffs, but I feel like we've got a team that ought to be able to make it in. 

[nate]

Third seems pretty optimistic to me. I see the Angels Ceiling at about 75 wins. Seems like 4th is more likely.

[Erstad Grit]

I think Astros are far worse and Mariners far better

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, nate said:

Third seems pretty optimistic to me. I see the Angels Ceiling at about 75 wins. Seems like 4th is more likely.

They’ll win closer to 85 than 75. 

[PattyD22]

6 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Food for thought.  San Diego is +300 for their division.  Angels are +325.  

I like San Diego's chances much better.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

SD at +300 is a damn good future bet.

[failos]

Time for some of you to put your money where your mouth is

[ukyah]

22 minutes ago, Bronson said:

What exactly was wasted? Did you just wanna get Trevor Bauer and.... nothing else... because that’s what would have happened if they went that route.

don't put words in my mouth. i made every effort to be fair minded in that post. i hope for great success for the angels this year, but im disappointed in their overall moves. i was pretty happy with both iglesias moves, which i thought were a strong start. i don't understand the other moves of consequence, ignoring the minor league moves and such.

i really feel like the angels could have ended up a significantly better team this offseason, instead of marginally better, which is how i see them. going by the projection systems that i've seen here, it seems like they predict the same. i hope for the best, but i've never bought into setting the goals at making the playoffs. my opinion is that goals always need to be set higher than you reasonably expect to achieve, because invariably you will come in somewhere below that.

just my opinion. i hope they win the world series. i would love to be proven wrong by minasian and arte.

[failos]

This team is one great SP away from winning the division. I have high hopes for Sandoval...if he delivers, Bundy repeats his 2020 success, and Canning stays healthy then we’ll be in it to win it

 

edit: almost forgot about Ohtani. Man if he stays healthy and pitches the way he did his rookie year we’ll be set. 
 

Lots of ifs though, but a lot could go right.

Edited February 10, 2021 by failos

[ukyah]

13 minutes ago, Stradling said:

They’ll win closer to 85 than 75. 

i totally agree and would take that action all day.

[nate]

14 minutes ago, Stradling said:

They’ll win closer to 85 than 75. 

That would be a full 100 point increase in winning percentage over last year.

How have they gotten any better? Seems to me like they have gotten worse if anything.

[failos]

2 minutes ago, ukyah said:

i totally agree and would take that action all day.

I agree with you @ukyah...this off-season feels wasted. We can only count on existing pieces to deliver, and maybe that’s what Minassian is banking on.

[failos]

2 minutes ago, nate said:

That would be a full 100 point increase in winning percentage over last year.

How have they gotten any better? Seems to me like they have gotten worse if anything.

How on earth have they gotten worse? At the very least, they are marginally better.

[Pancake Bear]

32 minutes ago, nate said:

Third seems pretty optimistic to me. I see the Angels Ceiling at about 75 wins. Seems like 4th is more likely.

Why not just call them a lottery team while you're at it.

[beatlesrule]

10 minutes ago, nate said:

How have they gotten any better? Seems to me like they have gotten worse if anything.

[Angels in 2030]

Angels easily could be 75 wins or 85+ wins.  Their margin of error is soooo much smaller than most other teams due to lack of depth.  If they are healthy, 85 is possible and maybe more with the right mid-season trade.  But a few injuries like usually happens and imploding to 75 wins max is very possible.  I actually like the 350 ALW bet on Angels....good value even though the likelihood of all going their way is small.

[Lou]

It appears that very few of you realize that betting odds are not merely a prediction of what the odds makers think will occur. 

[floplag]

Having trouble buying into them putting Oak on top, that seems a bit off.

[UndertheHalo]

Wide range of easily likely outcomes with this team.  Situation is basically the same as last year.  Slightly better than the previous year or two before that. 

[Angelsjunky]

2 hours ago, nate said:

Third seems pretty optimistic to me. I see the Angels Ceiling at about 75 wins. Seems like 4th is more likely.

Neither Debbie Downer or Picard quite does it. We need Eeyore.

[Stradling]

3 hours ago, Fourts said:

Angels easily could be 75 wins or 85+ wins.  Their margin of error is soooo much smaller than most other teams due to lack of depth.  If they are healthy, 85 is possible and maybe more with the right mid-season trade.  But a few injuries like usually happens and imploding to 75 wins max is very possible.  I actually like the 350 ALW bet on Angels....good value even though the likelihood of all going their way is small.

The margin of error for every team in the West is about the same as the Angels.  Houston can’t bring on salary and will have to make a couple of difficult decisions at the deadline with potential free agent Carlos Correa.  They also don’t have the farm they once had to go out and get a guy.  They are relying on a ton of guys that are young and inexperienced on the mound.  They also lost their closer and CFer.  The A’s lost their SS, closer, 7-8th inning guy in Soria and Petit.  Their farm according to the Farm System rankings is one of the worst in baseball.  They also seldom if ever bring on payroll.  So I am not sure why their margin for error is any different than the Angels.  I could be wrong, but this is how I see it.  

[nate]

On 2/10/2021 at 3:57 PM, beatlesrule said:

 

On 2/10/2021 at 3:30 PM, Stradling said:

They’ll win closer to 85 than 75. 

 

On 2/10/2021 at 3:27 PM, Erstad Grit said:

I think Astros are far worse and Mariners far better

 

On 2/10/2021 at 3:44 PM, ukyah said:

i totally agree and would take that action all day.

 

On 2/10/2021 at 3:51 PM, failos said:

How on earth have they gotten worse? At the very least, they are marginally better.

 

On 2/10/2021 at 3:57 PM, Pancake Bear said:

Why not just call them a lottery team while you're at it.

 

On 2/10/2021 at 6:08 PM, Angelsjunky said:

Neither Debbie Downer or Picard quite does it. We need Eeyore.

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