The Official 2021 Los Angeles Angels Minor League Stats, Reports & Scouting Thread

[Chuck]

9 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

Paris also struck out in his first at-bat of the second game of the season. Kyren breaking out this season will go a long way for our future at the shortstop position. Him, Kochanowicz and Calabrese are the guys I'm hoping shoot up prospect boards this season.

I agree. Speaking of Koch, he was supposed to start the night of the Covid issue with the 66ers but I assumed he'd start the next game but didn't I wonder what's up, unless I missed something. 

Also, do we know where Calabrese is starting the season and if Jordyn Adams avoided the IL or did he land on it with that leg injury.

[rafibomb]

5 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I agree. Speaking of Koch, he was supposed to start the night of the Covid issue with the 66ers but I assumed he'd start the next game but didn't I wonder what's up, unless I missed something. 

Also, do we know where Calabrese is starting the season and if Jordyn Adams avoided the IL or did he land on it with that leg injury.

I noticed that as well. My guess was he might be one of the reasons for the Covid issue? Or would he have been put on the IL list for that by now? And also as of right now Jordyn Adams has yet to be added to the IL so hopefully that's a sign that it's not too major an injury.

Edited May 10, 2021 by rafibomb

[Docwaukee]

25 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I agree. Speaking of Koch, he was supposed to start the night of the Covid issue with the 66ers but I assumed he'd start the next game but didn't I wonder what's up, unless I missed something. 

Also, do we know where Calabrese is starting the season and if Jordyn Adams avoided the IL or did he land on it with that leg injury.

I wouldn't expect to see Calabrese above whatever the new rookie ball equivalent for probably two years.  From the way the rosters are being constructed so far, it seems that Minasian and crew are taking a more conservative approach to moving guys up.  Part of that could be the fact that none of them have played in competitive games for a year.  

I was a bit surprised to see them move Bonilla up to full season ball as quick as they did though.  And Jose Reyes is another that pretty much skipped a year of rookie ball.  

[Docwaukee]

BTW, I can see why most pundits would have a hard time considering the Angels a very strong farm system if they're looking at the AA roster.  It's pretty devoid of talent.  Especially on the position player side of things.  It could be a lot better by mid season if they promote some guys.  

[Angelsjunky]

I think they're assessing players this first month or so, after which we'll see some adjustments - players moving up and down, but mostly up, considering the conservative placements. So as players get moved up a level, we might see some guys come from extended camp directly into low A ball to fill spots.

[Docwaukee]

4 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I think they're assessing players this first month or so, after which we'll see some adjustments - players moving up and down, but mostly up, considering the conservative placements. So as players get moved up a level, we might see some guys come from extended camp directly into low A ball to fill spots.

I think that's true.  Rosters are pretty thin right now.  So I assume it has more to do with just getting acclimated to post covid, a new minor league system, and more specifically that they are getting a better handle on certain guys.  

[Angelsjunky]

12 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

I think that's true.  Rosters are pretty thin right now.  So I assume it has more to do with just getting acclimated to post covid, a new minor league system, and more specifically that they are getting a better handle on certain guys.  

Yup. Also, you singled out the two guys that stood out to me as well: Bonilla and Reyes. Rivera, too.

I could see Holmes and Deveaux go straight to IE, rather than short season. But we shall see.

 

[Inside Pitch]

6 hours ago, Second Base said:

That's what we always called it growing up. That's also what other board members have called it. Do you have a different term you use?

Managerial Coordinator of Human Escort Services?

Showboating maybe?   But yeah, we used pimping too.

3 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

I think they're assessing players this first month or so, after which we'll see some adjustments - players moving up and down, but mostly up, considering the conservative placements. So as players get moved up a level, we might see some guys come from extended camp directly into low A ball to fill spots.

Personally, I'm going to be disregarding a lot of the statistical results the first 6-8 weeks or so, both the good and bad because of the long layoff in competitive play.

3 hours ago, Dochalo said:

I think that's true.  Rosters are pretty thin right now.  So I assume it has more to do with just getting acclimated to post covid, a new minor league system, and more specifically that they are getting a better handle on certain guys.  

After seeing how weird our rosters looked and how many new names there were on each team I went looking at other systems I'm super familiar with and saw a lot of the same.  Teams seem to be slow-rolling guys onto teams.  They are definitely doing things differently, and a lot of teams are holding guys in their "developmental lists", possibly getting longer looks at them in their alt or extended ST sites

Minor league baseball likely doesn't get back to normal until after the draft if at all until next season.

[Stradling]

I wonder if the minors has or should have similar standards as the mlb club as it relates to having 85% vaccinations to ease some restrictions.  It feels like we have been playing guys out of position or having pitchers bat because we can’t fill rosters quick enough.  Or maybe they should expand rosters at some point.  

[Inside Pitch]

18 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I wonder if the minors has or should have similar standards as the mlb club as it relates to having 85% vaccinations to ease some restrictions.  It feels like we have been playing guys out of position or having pitchers bat because we can’t fill rosters quick enough.  Or maybe they should expand rosters at some point.  

Well, they would have more than enough players if they had not gutted the minors by design.  This is what they wanted..  Fewer players, leaner systems.   Billionaires gotta Billionaire.

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Well, they would have more than enough players if they had not gutted the minors by design.  This is what they wanted..  Fewer players, leaner systems.   Billionaires gotta Billionaire.

It’s pathetic. 

[ScruffytheJanitor]

10 minutes ago, Stradling said:

It’s pathetic. 

Normally, this is where I'd defend the billionaire and extoll the virtues of streamlining.... but minor league baseball is such a crap shoot that volume is an important factor for generating major league players. It's really hard to see how even a major increase in individualized instruction is going to overcome the sheer long odds that any individual becomes a strong MLB player. 

[Angel Oracle]

15 hours ago, Stradling said:

Funny story (maybe), a friend of mine who works with me was an intern on Fred Rogins sport show had to go on his show, holding a small dog, and impersonate Paris Hilton saying, “That’s hot”  

 

Hall of Shame was a HOF segment.

[Second Base]

2 hours ago, ScruffytheJanitor said:

Normally, this is where I'd defend the billionaire and extoll the virtues of streamlining.... but minor league baseball is such a crap shoot that volume is an important factor for generating major league players. It's really hard to see how even a major increase in individualized instruction is going to overcome the sheer long odds that any individual becomes a strong MLB player. 

Without volume, there's no Jared Walsh, or Matt Shoemaker. Possibly no David Fletcher either. As I understand, the Angels were the only team to place any sort of value on him while he was at LMU.

[ScruffytheJanitor]

44 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Without volume, there's no Jared Walsh, or Matt Shoemaker. Possibly no David Fletcher either. As I understand, the Angels were the only team to place any sort of value on him while he was at LMU.

Yeah... it seems weird when the Angels probably have the strongest track record of coming up with high-quality, overlooked players from the depth of their minors. I'd add Mike Napoli and Kole Calhoun to your list. 

[John Smith]

 

 

 

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Update on #Angels prospect Jordyn Adams, who left the game on Thursday, via Tri-City Dust Devils manager Andy Schatzley on the team’s pregame show: “Jordyn’s probably still a week to 10 days away. That may be a little bit optimistic. I don’t think it’s gonna be a month.”

[jsnpritchett]

1 hour ago, John Smith said:

 

 

 

Angels MiLB

 

@AngelsMiLB

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Update on #Angels prospect Jordyn Adams, who left the game on Thursday, via Tri-City Dust Devils manager Andy Schatzley on the team’s pregame show: “Jordyn’s probably still a week to 10 days away. That may be a little bit optimistic. I don’t think it’s gonna be a month.”

uggggh.

[totdprods]

One more week before I consider reviving any sort of prospect hotlist, but if I were to do one now it would include the following from the first week, in no order...
 

Position Players:

• Kyren Paris: .300/.417/.500/.917 with two triples, 3 BB, 9 K, and 6 for 6 in SB attempts - absolute menace on the bases so far
• Luis Rengifo: .267/.421/.533/.954 with a double, a home run, 4 BB to 2 K, and 3 SB - power, speed, discipline combo we all dream on
• Orlando Martinez: .240/.259/.680/.939 with two doubles, three HR, 9 RBI - a 3-HR game will do you good
• Caleb Scires: .250/.375/.600/.975 with a double and two HR, 4 BB to 8 K - two lead-off HR will do you good too
• Michael Stefanic: .346/.393/.423/.816 with 7 H, two doubles - my dark horse candidate for David Fletcher 2.0
   
• Honorable mentions:
  • Brennon Lund: .267/.353/.733/1.086 with a double, two homers, and a couple walks. Had a scorching '19 in AAA after starting slow.
  • Jo Adell: .235/.316/.529/.845 - will he or won't he? power, speed, strikeouts, ugly swings, hard contact.
  • Brendon Davis (2 doubles, 1 HR) and Braxton Martinez (1.055 OPS, but a 27 year old in Low A): intriguing performances from total wild cards

Pitchers:

• Jose Salvador: 1 G, 4.1 IP, 2.08 ERA, 1 H, 1 BB, 12 K - the pitching equivalent of a 3-HR game is striking out 75% of the hitters you face.
• Brent Killam: 1 G, 3.2 IP, 2.45 ERA, 1 H, 3 BB, 10 K - another exciting debut for a new Halo farmhand, lefty drafted in 11th Rd. in 2019
• Jack Dashwood: 1 G, 3.2 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 5 K - same for our 12th Rd. from 2019, a 6'6" lefty
• Cristopher Molina: 2 G, 5.1 IP, 5 H, 1.69 ERA, 2 BB, 10 K - one of the better '19 prospect performances picking up where he left off
• Erik Rivera: 1 G, 3.1 IP, 2 H, BB, 5 K - excellent pro pitching debut for the purported two-way prospect. 
   
• Honorable mentions:
  • Andrew Blake: 1 G, 5 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 8 K - converted to rotation after wild '19 Orem debut (8.72 ERA, 18 BB 32 K in 21.2 IP)
  • Austin Warren: 2 G, 1.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, BB, 5 K - could wind up in MLB pen by end of year

 

[jsnpritchett]

 

[Stradling]

We’re going to see some people pissed. 

[rafibomb]

Jo Adell just hit his second homer of the game and he straight up destroyed that ball

 

  

Edited May 11, 2021 by rafibomb

[Vlad27Trout27]

I know he's not a Prospect anymore, But Suarez looked like a different pitcher today. That Fastball of his had solid Life and he was commanding it well. I might be wrong on this one, but i saw a lot of Slider today and they looked really good. 

 

There is still work that needs to be done. His change, still does not look like a plus pitch it once was, has to much of cut action on it. 

 

Overall a solid job and he's only 23. 

[bloodbrother]

 

[Second Base]

Nice extension, good to see Adell go oppo. I like that a lot better than him reaching and yanking a cheap PCL homer. That was a quality shot. The stupid step at 3B? Still stupid. 

[Lou]

Blah, blah, blah...

Did he pimp?