Jake Odorizzi

[Angelsjunky]

This chart illustrates why he's my fourth choice after Cole, Strasburg, and Wheeler - when you take into account cost and age (he'll be cheaper and much younger than Ryu, cheaper than Bumgarner).

That's a nice velocity spike this year. I see no reason why he shouldn't be able to continue.

[Angel Oracle]

Anticipated contract?     Four years/$60 million?

[Second Base]

41 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

This chart illustrates why he's my fourth choice after Cole, Strasburg, and Wheeler - when you take into account cost and age (he'll be cheaper and much younger than Ryu, cheaper than Bumgarner).

That's a nice velocity spike this year. I see no reason why he shouldn't be able to continue.

He's my 4th choice because of the velocity spike, great contact year and strong prospect pedigree.

[Angelsjunky]

9 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Anticipated contract?     Four years/$60 million?

Yeah, something like that, I think. He'll be "Budget Wheeler."

[Second Base]

11 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Anticipated contract?     Four years/$60 million?

I'd be willing to go 4/70.

[failos]

I wish the Angels signed Cole, Odorozzi, and Wheeler. Don’t even need anything else

[T.G.]

3 minutes ago, Second Base said:

I'd be willing to go 4/70.

I has no idea you had that kind of money.

[Second Base]

Just now, True Grich said:

I has no idea you had that kind of money.

Teachers aren't rich, but I could scrape together $70 if it were dire.

[tdawg87]

He's very consistent, too. Not going to pitch 200 innings, but he'll give you 160 with an ERA under 4. 

Honestly he may even get better. He's the perfect middle of the rotation replacement for Skaggs.

[VariousCrap]

10 minutes ago, failos said:

I wish the Angels signed Cole, Odorozzi, and Wheeler. Don’t even need anything else

I agree 100% with this.

[Second Base]

Well Eppler said he wants two pitchers. If payroll is increasing, I have to imagine the pitchers are ranked as follows:

1. Cole 2. Strasburg 3. Wheeler 4. Odorizzi 5. Ryu 6. Hamels. 

Arte probably won't be willing to shell out enough for 1 and 2, but 1 and 3 or 1 and 4 aren't a bad consolation at all. 

But then again, if Eppler pulled off the impossible for the third year in a row (signing Ohtani and extending Trout were the first two), I doubt Arte would tell him no.

It's too far off so I won't even dream, but just for a moment . ...Cole, Strasburg, Ohtani ..

[UndertheHalo]

Definitely agree he’s number 4.  I don’t think Strasburg leaves Washington so really he’s 3 imo. 
 

like Wheeler, he’s another guy with solid potential to have not yet had his best years. 

[Chuck]

1 hour ago, VariousCrap said:

I agree 100% with this.

Same..

[Pancake Bear]

52 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Well Eppler said he wants two pitchers. If payroll is increasing, I have to imagine the pitchers are ranked as follows:

1. Cole 2. Strasburg 3. Wheeler 4. Odorizzi 5. Ryu 6. Hamels. 

Arte probably won't be willing to shell out enough for 1 and 2, but 1 and 3 or 1 and 4 aren't a bad consolation at all. 

But then again, if Eppler pulled off the impossible for the third year in a row (signing Ohtani and extending Trout were the first two), I doubt Arte would tell him no.

It's too far off so I won't even dream, but just for a moment . ...Cole, Strasburg, Ohtani ..

I could live with Wheeler as our #1 if Odorizzi was the #2. Anything less will be a gigantic disappointment. 

[ukyah]

there are different combinations, but madbum has to be in them.

[Pancake Bear]

4 minutes ago, ukyah said:

there are different combinations, but madbum has to be in them.

Only if he’s the second guy and doesn’t cost too much. If he’s your number one guy, that’s one sad offseason. 

[ukyah]

30 minutes ago, Sean-Regan said:

Only if he’s the second guy and doesn’t cost too much. If he’s your number one guy, that’s one sad offseason. 

that's not what we're talking about though. you guys are listing the top pitchers and some combinations. i just said, you're forgetting madbum.

[AngelsLakersFan]

I prefer someone who can go a little deeper into games.

[Jay]

39 minutes ago, Sean-Regan said:

Only if he’s the second guy and doesn’t cost too much. If he’s your number one guy, that’s one sad offseason. 

Even so it wouldn't be as sad as last off-season.

 

[Fish Oil]

I've been saying all along that I think we sign Odorizzi. I've also been saying that I think last year was an outlier that he will never repeat.

[Docwaukee]

3 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

I prefer someone who can go a little deeper into games.

less than 5.1 ip per start the last three years.  

I'm not sure people truly understand what they'd be getting with him.  

[tdawg87]

4 hours ago, Dochalo said:

less than 5.1 ip per start the last three years.  

I'm not sure people truly understand what they'd be getting with him.  

Someone better than the entire rotation in 2019?

[totdprods]

I like him but worry he’ll get way overpaid and the QO/draft pick attached adds another level of sting. 

It’ll be interesting to see how his winter proceeds. He could get Keucheled if he and his agent maintain a really high asking price coupled with the pick. If he thinks he’s worth $15m, $17m, $18m over four or five he might be waiting awhile. 

Honestly, wouldn’t be totally surprised if the Twins re-sign him in a deal structured around the QO. I think the Twins are going to be a real nuisance for the Angels this winter. They have been indicating for awhile that they’d essentially spend big and overpay for pitching and their entire rotation basically just hit FA. They have a good offense and a good FO. I don’t think they’ll influence the Cole market much, but, I could see them really inflating the price on the next tier of arms or gobbling up a couple of the lower-tiered arms we may be eyeing as insurance.

This is why I really think there’s a legitimate chance Eppler has to trade for an arm of some significance, or at least sign someone very quickly, even if it’s someone fairly underwhelming like Teheran, Roark, Gibson...too many pitching needs to wait everything out. I think Cole will then be the next task (well, and was always top priority) but it could drag out. 

And then from there, I think Eppler will sit back and wait. Almost certainly there will be a good FA SP available come January or February still looking for a deal. Hamels, Bumgarner, Odorizzi because of the QO, Keuchel, Ryu...and that’s where I think Eppler might surprise and land another big arm. That winds up being the move that puts us over the ‘budget’. 

Edited November 14, 2019 by totdprods

[beatlesrule]

He is strongly considering taking the qualifying offer.

[floplag]

Per Twitter this morning hes apparently strongly considering accepting the QO and waiting another year to play the market when the crop of starters wont be as strong.