How Much Longer Until Something Is Done About Calhoun?

[yamsi12]

Replace him with Harper next season.

[GrittyVeterans]

Well good thing we're loaded in OF prospects

[Angelsfan1984]

6 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Well good thing we're loaded in OF prospects

Yep. in 2-3 years this will be irrelevant because the entire outfield will be accounted for for the next 10 years.

[Lou]

50 minutes ago, Torridd said:

It's strange Calhoun would be this bad. Any theories?

One theory is that as a major league player, he really can't hit. 

[Lou]

1 hour ago, WeatherWonk said:

Did anyone ever get better by sitting on a bench? 

He can't get any worse, so what's the risk?

[Angelsfan1984]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

One theory is that as a major league player, he really can't hit. 

I think he's pressing and that's leading to extremely poor numbers, but I think you're right in that even when he's right, he's probably no better than a 240/250 hitter.

[zenmaster]

Can Danny Espinosa play OF?

[Inside Pitch]

3 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I admittedly said I don't know if he can be sent down, so I never actually said send him down. I do know that he can be sat on the bench. As to your second point, I don't actually question peoples opinions. I give my own. I don't copy paste statistics to prove my ambiguous assumptions. I literally just say what I see and give my opinion as to that. So again, your need to call me out for doing nothing more than what a message board was designed to allow is pretty bush league. Keep on keepin on buddy.

Stop whining about being called out...   Being a message board expert that seemingly wants to dictate proper message board behavior you should be aware that voicing an opinion can have some nasty results.  We all catch shit for our opinions and two years from now Lou will find a post of yours that makes everyone laugh.  The circle of AW.com life.

BTW...  cut and pasting stats is what some people do to support their opinions as opposed to being that message board edge-lord that spouts off and clings to his opinions because GDI, he's an American hero who is unafraid to be wrong because GDI, he is a free thinker.   Mixing some facts in with opinions is a good thing, sometimes it even makes it harder to be "called out".

2 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

This makes total sense to me. In general i'm not sure what CY is giving that Blash couldn't give you. That move seems very obvious to me.

The ability to play CF.   

Prior to one game this year you have to go back 6 years to find any season where Blash has played CF and in 2012 it was only 8 games.  He's played a total of 179 innings in CF as a pro..    

1 hour ago, Torridd said:

It's strange Calhoun would be this bad. Any theories?

He was always a max effort guy and he's always been streaky.   When push comes to shove the physical tools only go so far, his margin for error was always a lot smaller than that of a more physically talented player.... right now pitchers own him and he lacks the brute force/natural ability to shove past it.   He had two sub .575 OPS months last year too -- so, we have seen him be bad before but we have never seen him post a walk rate under 3% and a K rate near 30%.   This is a new level of awful for him.   Can't really argue that he's just been unlucky as the numbers don't really support that at this point.

Hopefully it clicks for him sooner rather than later, but I do wish he had succumbed to a phantom injury and a rehab assignment in AAA.

Edited May 3, 2018 by Inside Pitch

[Stradling]

2 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I see a common theme in those 2 scenarios. You can be the hype man LOL.

Yes I like to argue with guys who shit on the team relentlessly.  

[Jason]

30 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I think he's pressing and that's leading to extremely poor numbers, but I think you're right in that even when he's right, he's probably no better than a 240/250 hitter.

Since the second game of the season?

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, VariousCrap said:

It sure seemed like Kole tried using the whole field approach in ST, but as soon as the season started, he fell back into bad habits fast.

Hitting is a lot easier when you're facing a guy who's previous high was pitching for the Delmarva Shorebirds or the Greensboro Grasshoppers.

[Stradling]

1 hour ago, fan_since79 said:

On that point, Steve Finley says hello.

Shit did Kole turn 40 over night?  

[Angelsfan1984]

5 minutes ago, Jason said:

Since the second game of the season?

No. I think he slumped to start the season and at this point he's so wrapped up in coming out of the slump that its becoming a mental block. He needs to honestly go mash on some AAA pitching to get his confidence back and see positive results from actual gameplay not just batting practice. That would be better than being on the bench as he needs the reps to get out of the funk. The problem is he shouldn't be working on that on the major league roster.

[Angel Oracle]

How come pitchers didn't make these adjustments until now?     This is Cold's 6th MLB season.

It's part mental, and part stubborn Cold not at least trying to hit or bunt the ball the other freaking way.   

[Second Base]

9 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

How come pitchers didn't make these adjustments until now?     This is Cold's 6th MLB season.

It's part mental, and part stubborn Cold not at least trying to hit or bunt the ball the other freaking way.   

Pitchers made these adjustments midway through the 2016 season probably. That's when he started hitting .230. It continued on into June of last year, when Kole finally made the adjustments.

Then something totally unexpected happened. Pitchers adjusted.....AGAIN!

Then Kole sucked again. He picked it up again in August before pitchers adjusted again and Kole struggled.

[Homebrewer]

1 hour ago, fan_since79 said:

On that point, Steve Finley says hello.

Shea Hillenbrand is waving too.

[Second Base]

Basically, Kole has been completely unable to find any sort of rhythm at the plate since 2014. 

Fourfreakin' years ago.

In 2015, on a month by month basis he hit .315, .252, .234, .320, .205, .237. 

One or two good months separated by months of not hitting.

2016: .267, .324, .269, .244, .224, .296. 

Again, bouncing all over the place in production.

2017: .255, .158, .324, .169, .300, .245.

2018: .168.

Even when Kole is having a good month, he is not a hitter that can be trusted. You never know when he'll lose it and be useless for months at a time.

[T.G.]

AW mojo must not be working... usually a thread like this leads to improvement by the player being discussed.  I'm at a loss...

[Angelsfan1984]

39 minutes ago, SuperTroopers said:

Yes I like to argue with guys who shit on the team relentlessly.  

I don't shit on the team. I complain about a single person. The guy in charge. The team is comprised of players whether good or bad and they will be good or bad on a night to night basis. Its one guys job to get the most out of those every single game. I don't think the guy in charge is capable of doing that through 9 innings. So again, if you don't like what I have to say, nobody makes you respond to me. That's your choice not mine.

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, True Grich said:

AW mojo must not be working... usually a thread like this leads to improvement by the player being discussed.  I'm at a loss...

Sometimes the suckage is just too powerful 

Edited May 3, 2018 by Lou

[Dick B Back]

11 minutes ago, Scotty@AW said:

Basically, Kole has been completely unable to find any sort of rhythm at the plate since 2014. 

Fourfreakin' years ago.

In 2015, on a month by month basis he hit .315, .252, .234, .320, .205, .237. 

One or two good months separated by months of not hitting.

2016: .267, .324, .269, .244, .224, .296. 

Again, bouncing all over the place in production.

2017: .255, .158, .324, .169, .300, .245.

2018: .168.

Even when Kole is having a good month, he is not a hitter that can be trusted. You never know when he'll lose it and be useless for months at a time.

When you posted those stats, I thought they were Cron’s.

[Dick B Back]

2 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I don't shit on the team. I complain about a single person. The guy in charge. 

And because of you, A-Bob lost his job!

[Angelsfan1984]

2 minutes ago, Dick B Back said:

And because of you, A-Bob lost his job!

I don't know who that is?

[Dick B Back]

1 minute ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I don't know who that is?

Of course you don’t.

[Dick B Back]

This thread is now unofficially a classic.