Scioscia's last year?

[EnglishCop]

On 12/18/2017 at 10:08 PM, ANAHEIMBOB said:

Could any manager have  done a better job then Scioscia  in the last 9 years, they would have been a pretty  bad manager.

 

On 12/19/2017 at 11:22 AM, Taylor said:

Paging @EnglishCop

The list of charges is long on that offense, my friend.

[Dtwncbad]

I don't loathe Mike Scioscia and I certainly don't love him.

Is there room in this subject for those of us who say he has been fine but would welcome a change?

Is it OK to say I'm just ready to move on without hating him?  I sure liked Christie Brinkley in swimsuits, and frankly she still looks good for her age, but if I am looking for a cover model today it's gonna be somebody else.

Mike has done as good a job as he can do, and it is what it is.

I'm just ready to start the next chapter.

[Stradling]

I think he has been a good manager, I would welcome a change.   That doesn’t mean I think he has been shit, it doesn’t mean I think he’s the greatest, and I certainly don’t think he is a problem.  This forum is the main reason I want to see a change.  It would be nice to see someone else just to change the conversation on here.  Then again, we still talk about Napoli vs Mathis, so perhaps things won’t change after all.  

[Tank]

6 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

I don't loathe Mike Scioscia and I certainly don't love him.

Is there room in this subject for those of us who say he has been fine but would welcome a change?

Is it OK to say I'm just ready to move on without hating him?  I sure liked Christie Brinkley in swimsuits, and frankly she still looks good for her age, but if I am looking for a cover model today it's gonna be somebody else.

i don't know if we need some kind of official or legal action, but i submit to all of you that this should be the LAST time that scioscia and christie brinkley are every again used in some kind of comparison on this message board.

[Dtwncbad]

Their primary individual values have something similar though:

Scioscia--lasagne

Brinkley--lays on ya

[Troll Daddy]

Hurry up with the extension already  ... we all know it’s going to happen 

[IEAngelsfan]

13 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

I don't loathe Mike Scioscia and I certainly don't love him.

Is there room in this subject for those of us who say he has been fine but would welcome a change?

Is it OK to say I'm just ready to move on without hating him?  I sure liked Christie Brinkley in swimsuits, and frankly she still looks good for her age, but if I am looking for a cover model today it's gonna be somebody else.

Mike has done as good a job as he can do, and it is what it is.

I'm just ready to start the next chapter.

Oh come on.  Do you really think we're going to believe that?  You would do Christie Brinkley in a nano second.

[Tank]

[Troll Daddy]

"At the end of last season, I sat down with Mike, and the first thing he said was, 'Hey, do you guys want me back next season?'" Eppler said. "I said, 'Yeah, you're coming back if you want to.' He said, 'OK, yeah, let's do that.'

"Then he said, 'As for anything beyond that, let's table all that, we'll talk about it at the end of next season.' I said, 'OK.' That was it. He said, 'It will all work itself out; let's just focus on winning in 2018,' so that's our mindset."

 

LA Times

[jordan]

8 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

"At the end of last season, I sat down with Mike, and the first thing he said was, 'Hey, do you guys want me back next season?'" Eppler said. "I said, 'Yeah, you're coming back if you want to.' He said, 'OK, yeah, let's do that.'

"Then he said, 'As for anything beyond that, let's table all that, we'll talk about it at the end of next season.' I said, 'OK.' That was it. He said, 'It will all work itself out; let's just focus on winning in 2018,' so that's our mindset."

 

LA Times

I really think this team has to win a postseason series (not a one game WC game) in order for Scioscia to be back. 

[Torridd]

On 12/18/2017 at 4:34 PM, LHalo said:

Let's see how this year plays out. If he wins the division and we get to the ALCS I wouldn't be against extending him.

 

 

Now flame me.

Unless we have a bunch of injuries, then I think Sosh has to get this team to the playoffs in order to get an extension. It's a hard decision if we did have a lot of injuries.

[Torridd]

On 12/18/2017 at 7:23 PM, well_red said:

Should be a year-to-year decision, one year rolling contract.  It would be best for everyone.  

I don't see how Scioscia, with his reputation, only gets a 1-year contract. I think if we renew his contract it has to be at least for 3 years.

[Torridd]

Would one of you more knowledgeable fans do a pro/con breakdown on Scioscia?

[Angel Oracle]

I could see him taking say a two year extension, if Eppler wants to keep him as manager.

Right now, I'm 50-50 on it.   Ready to move on if he leaves, but also know that there are very few MLB managers who are as good in the clubhouse.

[Stradling]

30 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Would one of you more knowledgeable fans do a pro/con breakdown on Scioscia?

Downside:

Slow starts year after year

Bullpen Management (which isn't real based on stats)

Prefers veterans (more of an issue in the past than now)

Albert in the 3 hole/4 hole

Not fiery enough 

Too many line ups

Teams don't do well in playoffs

Too much power

Predictable

Too aggressive on the base paths 

 

Upside:

Well liked by players

Respected around the league

Consistent

Knows the rules better than anyone else

Does a great job through adversity

Had more power than Dipoto (this has turned out to be a very good thing)

Aggressive on the base paths, forces mistakes

 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 12/18/2017 at 8:08 PM, ANAHEIMBOB said:

Could any manager have  done a better job then Scioscia  in the last 9 years, they would have been a pretty  bad manager.

Somebody please translate this for me, because it makes zero sense on the face of it.

[Dtwncbad]

Bengie Molina?

Former catcher with Angel legacy.

Has some coaching experience.

His brother Jose already helps Maldonado in the offseason.

And you save some money on his uniform since he would wear same size as MS. . .

[IEAngelsfan]

13 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Somebody please translate this for me, because it makes zero sense on the face of it.

I hate Mike Scioscia, I hate Mike Scioscia, I hate Mike..................

[tomsred]

19 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Somebody please translate this for me, because it makes zero sense on the face of it.

Someone would, if it were possible.  I say lets run it through some type of computer program, then auto translate or correction might help.

The other option is to send it to Mota, he knows a lot about this type of English.

[Torridd]

24 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Downside:

Slow starts year after year

Bullpen Management (which isn't real based on stats)

Prefers veterans (more of an issue in the past than now)

Albert in the 3 hole/4 hole

Not fiery enough 

Too many line ups

Teams don't do well in playoffs

Too much power

Predictable

Too aggressive on the base paths 

 

Upside:

Well liked by players

Respected around the league

Consistent

Knows the rules better than anyone else

Does a great job through adversity

Had more power than Dipoto (this has turned out to be a very good thing)

Aggressive on the base paths, forces mistakes

 

Thanks, Strad.

[Stradling]

I'm sure I am missing some things, but I tried to be fair and balanced on both sides.  I don't hate him, don't love him.  I defend him against some blowhards.  I think if he came back it would make me laugh because he somehow bothers people.  But I have to admit I am ready for a change for no other reason than change itself.  I don't want to see a boring manager that never runs or never hit and runs.  I will take the occasional ugly out for a little excitement.  

[Vegas Halo Fan]

16 minutes ago, tomsred said:

Someone would, if it were possible.  I say lets run it through some type of computer program, then auto translate or correction might help.

The other option is to send it to Mota, he knows a lot about this type of English.

Good point. I hadn't thought of our good friend Jose. That might be just the ticket.

[Dick B Back]

1 hour ago, Torridd said:

Would one of you more knowledgeable fans do a pro/con breakdown on Scioscia?

Is A-Bob available?

[Chuck]

I think Scioscia is gone if he doesn't at least get this team to the ALCS. 

Eppler can hire a guy who is all about advanced stats/metrics. Someone with experience playing ball, someone younger and one who understands how to properly evaluate talent in this day and age. 

[Angel Oracle]

32 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Good point. I hadn't thought of our good friend Jose. That might be just the ticket.

English Cop would likely find it very difficult to understand.