The official 2017-18 LA Kings thread

[arch stanton]

That was a fun game to watch even with the Flames broadcast and all the pesky work I was trying to do at the same time 

[Angel Oracle]

Good work by Kuemper, gonna need that more with Quick nursing the injury.

[Thomas]

Perhaps we should boo Doughty at Staples to get him motivated like that? I had never seen a F You assist before. He's been unreal this season. 

[nando714]

On 1/25/2018 at 10:00 AM, Angel Oracle said:

Good work by Kuemper, gonna need that more with Quick nursing the injury.

Darcy looking good again tonight vs Dallas in 1.5 periods 

he’s gotten points in every start this season

[nando714]

2 hours ago, nando714 said:

Darcy looking good again tonight vs Dallas in 1.5 periods 

he’s gotten points in every start this season

Nvm he’s now 7-1-3 after tonight’s shut out 

[Angel Oracle]

Who knows how long Quick will be out.   NHL is so secretive about injury recoveries. 

[Thomas]

New plan. Only play the Coyotes going forward.

[Angel Oracle]

Needed that rout Saturday night.

Get back here soon, JC. 

[nando714]

Darcy is now 9-1-3

7 game road trip coming up 

[Angel Oracle]

Need at least a 3-2-2 on this road trip.

[Thomas]

Well that game was...something.

On a more interesting note:

 

TRADE ALERT https://t.co/FjAhiir2U0

— LA Kings (@LAKings) February 14, 2018

 

About as good a deal as could have been hoped for. 

[nando714]

I’ll take any kind of D help

carter needs to come back ASAP 

[Tank]

glad to be rid of gaborik and pleasantly surprised someone was willing to take on his contract. his 8 points a year weren't really adding anything to the mix. i'm hopeful that trading an offensive player means we're that much closer to having carter return. we could sure use his offense right now.

i hope phaneuf can't contribute. he has a bit of a negative reputation.

is this the same thompson that used to play with the ducks?

[gotbeer]

20 minutes ago, Tank said:

glad to be rid of gaborik and pleasantly surprised someone was willing to take on his contract. his 8 points a year weren't really adding anything to the mix. i'm hopeful that trading an offensive player means we're that much closer to having carter return. we could sure use his offense right now.

i hope phaneuf can't contribute. he has a bit of a negative reputation.

is this the same thompson that used to play with the ducks?

Yes the same Thompson.  Unfortunately for the Kings, advanced metrics show both players should be manning one of the nearby parking lots.  Let's put it this way.  Bieska is a cone, and he's on par Fenwick and Corsi to Phaneuf.  

[Tank]

1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

Yes the same Thompson.  Unfortunately for the Kings, advanced metrics show both players should be manning one of the nearby parking lots.  Let's put it this way.  Bieska is a cone, and he's on par Fenwick and Corsi to Phaneuf.  

i've seen you ducks guys refer to corsi and fenwick several times,  but you're the only ones i've ever seen use that info. what is it, how is it calculated, and what does it mean? i need some kind of primer on it.

[gotbeer]

33 minutes ago, Tank said:

i've seen you ducks guys refer to corsi and fenwick several times,  but you're the only ones i've ever seen use that info. what is it, how is it calculated, and what does it mean? i need some kind of primer on it.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/p/phanedi01.html

Quote

Corsi (EV)

CF -- Corsi For at Even Strength
Shots + Blocks + Misses

CA -- Corsi Against at Even Strength
Shots + Blocks + Misses

CF% -- Corsi For % at Even Strength
CF / (CF + CA)
Above 50% means the team was controlling the
puck more often than not with this player on the
ice in this situation.

CF% rel -- Relative Corsi For % at Even Strength
CF% - CFoff%
On-Ice Corsi For % - Off-Ice Corsi For %

Quote

Fenwick (EV)

FF -- Fenwick For at Even Strength
Shots + Misses

FA -- Fenwick Against at Even Strength
Shots + Misses

FF% -- Fenwick For % at Even Strength
FF / (FF + FA)
Above 50% means the team was controlling the
puck more often than not with this player on the
ice in this situation.

FF% rel -- Relative Fenwick For % at Even Strength
FF% - FFoff%
On-Ice Fenwick For % - Off-Ice Fenwick For %

 

Pretty much you want over 50% or very close to 50% at least.  You want players that can control the puck in 5 on 5 situations.  Phaneuf is at 42.7% and 43.2% and in comparison Bieksa is at 44.6% and 44.2%.  And Bieska is a turnover machine that gets skated around like he's a cone.  In comparison, Drew Doughty is a 54.2% and 52.8%, Muzzin is a 52.8% and 51.8%, Martinez is a 47% and 46.5% but for him, this seems like an aboration season since he's been north of 50% every year prior, Folin is a 49.8% and 51%, Forbort 50.1% and 49.9%.

[Tank]

thanks, GB. interesting info. i kind of figured doughty would be quite a bit higher than that.

[Angel Oracle]

I can only hope that Phaneuf was floundering in Ottawa, because they are so bad this season. 

Kings defense has taken a hike the past 2 games.   What gives?   Just one of those things?   Playing on the road?

[Thomas]

On 2/8/2018 at 3:16 PM, Angel Oracle said:

Need at least a 3-2-2 on this road trip.

Mission accomplished.

Great job by the team to win the last 3, especially in Winnipeg. 

[Tank]

great game tonight. kopitar plays his 900th game and scores his 800th point. 

meanwhile, phaneuf has scored goals in three straight games. 

[Angel Oracle]

Looks like Phaneuf just needed a change of scenery, and the chance to play in the SC playoffs (not happening in Ottawa).

I guessed exactly what the team needed on the road trip (8 pts out of 14 max), and beating rock solid Winnipeg on the road for 3 straight wins was a great conclusion to the road trip.

Ahhhhh, exhale....

Hope Carter is back soon.

[Thomas]

53 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Looks like Phaneuf just needed a change of scenery, and the chance to play in the SC playoffs (not happening in Ottawa).

Ottawa was playing him has a #1 dman, which he isn't, even though he's being paid like one. Being reduced to about 18 min/game can only help his effectiveness when on the ice. The Kings really missed the big shot from the blue line, especially on the PP,  which they haven't had since Willie Mitchell left. The PK'ers have to play the points more honestly, opening up the forwards. And while he is indeed a pylon and not much of a puck handler, the Kings can hide that better than most teams. Though Pearson's willingness to do the dirty work in front of the crease should not go unnoticed. It's been a godsend on this road trip. Brown looked really good last night as well. I have noticed that the Kings have really turned on the puck possession game. They are playing 5v5 often like 3v3 and being willing to play the puck back into their own zone, though I suppose that is a dual-edged sword.

[Thomas]

Woah!
 

 

Kings and Coyotes announce trade. https://t.co/jhAGhNUnjB

— LAKingsPR (@LAKingsPR) February 22, 2018

[nando714]

10 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Woah!
 

 

Kings and Coyotes announce trade. https://t.co/jhAGhNUnjB

— LAKingsPR (@LAKingsPR) February 22, 2018

Why? 

Darcy was on a 1 year deal but he’s been solid in his limited starts imo 

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, nando714 said:

Why? 

Darcy was on a 1 year deal but he’s been solid in his limited starts imo 

Kuemper wasn't going to play many more games for the Kings this season and wouldn't be exactly content to backup for them again next season. So Blake traded him at his peak value for a speedy winger that will be a RFA this offseason. That's a good thing. And they get a decent backup to boot. The question is why the Coyotes would do this? I'd assume they are about to ship Raanta as Kuemper just agreed to a 2 year extension.