Dammit Florida

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Loretta Lynch believes the most effective response to terrorism is more love.

She's also still searching for a motive for Omar Mateen.

And this is our Attorney General...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/21/loretta-lynch-most-effective-response-to-islamic-t/

Radical Islam especially appreciates gay love 

[fan_since79]

Lynch also has no idea where Mateen's wife is. The FBI simply lost track of her. Normally, something like this would result in resignations or firings.

Has the shooter’s wife left the state of Florida?" a reporter asked Lynch during her press conference Tuesday.

"Right now, I don’t know exactly the answer to that," Lynch candidly replied. "I believe she was going to travel but I do not know exactly her location now."

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=58325

[Jason]

4 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Lynch also has no idea where Mateen's wife is. The FBI simply lost track of her. Normally, something like this would result in resignations or firings.

Has the shooter’s wife left the state of Florida?" a reporter asked Lynch during her press conference Tuesday.

"Right now, I don’t know exactly the answer to that," Lynch candidly replied. "I believe she was going to travel but I do not know exactly her location now."

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=58325

Good lord, the Feds suck!

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 6/20/2016 at 3:30 PM, nate said:

Meanwhile Senate Republicans just blocked a bill to expand background checks and eliminate the gun show loophole.

Mentioned on here before, probably in the gun thread, that of all people, real sports on hbo did a special on guns. They had a hidden camera where a young teenager, like 15 years old maybe, tried to buy porn, cigarettes and beer. He was obviously told no. Then he goes to a gun show and walks out with a gun that day...  

[ten ocho recon scout]

 

[Tank]

33 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Mentioned on here before, probably in the gun thread, that of all people, real sports on hbo did a special on guns. They had a hidden camera where a young teenager, like 15 years old maybe, tried to buy porn, cigarettes and beer. He was obviously told no. Then he goes to a gun show and walks out with a gun that day...  

Freedom!!!

[Tank]

2 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

Lynch also has no idea where Mateen's wife is. The FBI simply lost track of her. Normally, something like this would result in resignations or firings.

Has the shooter’s wife left the state of Florida?" a reporter asked Lynch during her press conference Tuesday.

"Right now, I don’t know exactly the answer to that," Lynch candidly replied. "I believe she was going to travel but I do not know exactly her location now."

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=58325

Maybe she's waiting for Chloe to send the schematics to Jacks phone.

[nate]

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Mentioned on here before, probably in the gun thread, that of all people, real sports on hbo did a special on guns. They had a hidden camera where a young teenager, like 15 years old maybe, tried to buy porn, cigarettes and beer. He was obviously told no. Then he goes to a gun show and walks out with a gun that day...  

Yeah, merica!

NRA and second amendment folks are totally ok with this.  If they tell you they aren't they are fucking liars because they are the ones that mobilize every time there are gun control laws being proposed.

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, Tank said:

Maybe she's waiting for Chloe to send the schematics to Jacks phone.

Too late.

 

 

[arch stanton]

Here's the big plan to protect us.....

 

https://news.vice.com/article/republicans-are-coming-for-your-browsing-histories-not-your-guns

As a provision of the Patriot Act, which was passed after 9/11, the FBI can, without a warrant, force banks, phone companies, internet businesses, and others to hand over a customer's name, address, and billing records. But it needs a warrant to access citizens' email metadata, like details about who sent or received an email and when they sent it. The FBI also cannot access a citizen's web browsing history information without a warrant.

McCain's amendment would allow the FBI access to people's browsing histories and email metadata by broadening the scope of administrative subpoenas known as National Security Letters (NSL).

[Lhalo]

McCain being McCain. 

[Blarg]

He doesn't know how to open his email so he is fine with it.

[mtangelsfan]

4 hours ago, arch stanton said:

Here's the big plan to protect us.....

 

https://news.vice.com/article/republicans-are-coming-for-your-browsing-histories-not-your-guns

As a provision of the Patriot Act, which was passed after 9/11, the FBI can, without a warrant, force banks, phone companies, internet businesses, and others to hand over a customer's name, address, and billing records. But it needs a warrant to access citizens' email metadata, like details about who sent or received an email and when they sent it. The FBI also cannot access a citizen's web browsing history information without a warrant.

McCain's amendment would allow the FBI access to people's browsing histories and email metadata by broadening the scope of administrative subpoenas known as National Security Letters (NSL).

So glad I don't vote republican anymore.

[mtangelsfan]

9 hours ago, nate said:

Yeah, merica!

NRA and second amendment folks are totally ok with this.  If they tell you they aren't they are fucking liars because they are the ones that mobilize every time there are gun control laws being proposed.

Blanket much?

[nate]

Just now, mtangelsfan said:

Blanket much?

Nope because if they did care they would be doing more to stop it.

[mtangelsfan]

2 minutes ago, nate said:

Nope because if they did care they would be doing more to stop it.

What do you expect middle joe american to do nate?  What do expect a second amendment supporter to do?  I certainly don't go to rallies to support automatic weapons or anything like that.

[nate]

Speak out in favor of these laws that are being brought up?  Instead they speak out against it and show up in huge rallys.

[mtangelsfan]

"They" are not even close to every second amendment advocate.  

[Thomas]

I would chastise @nate for making generalizations so broad that Republicans talking about Muslims would blush but it's hard to do that when elected officials are doing the same thing this week.

http://theweek.com/articles/631457/democratic-party-selling-gun-control-like-dick-cheney-thats-problem

[nate]

14 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

"They" are not even close to every second amendment advocate.  

But they are.  They vote for these people because they claim they will protect their gun rights.  Maybe they should stop voting against them because they are so negligent and stupid.

[Jason]

5 hours ago, arch stanton said:

Here's the big plan to protect us.....

 

https://news.vice.com/article/republicans-are-coming-for-your-browsing-histories-not-your-guns

As a provision of the Patriot Act, which was passed after 9/11, the FBI can, without a warrant, force banks, phone companies, internet businesses, and others to hand over a customer's name, address, and billing records. But it needs a warrant to access citizens' email metadata, like details about who sent or received an email and when they sent it. The FBI also cannot access a citizen's web browsing history information without a warrant.

McCain's amendment would allow the FBI access to people's browsing histories and email metadata by broadening the scope of administrative subpoenas known as National Security Letters (NSL).

This is a good reason why people should put aside party loyalty and personal beliefs and put the constitution first. What total crap.

[Tank]

28 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

What do you expect middle joe american to do nate?  What do expect a second amendment supporter to do?  I certainly don't go to rallies to support automatic weapons or anything like that.

It seems to me that gun advocates/second amendment rights folks/the NRA supporters don't want any kind of limitation on the ability to own, use, or purchase guns. Every single time one of these tragedies happen - and they're happening more frequently - they view that gun control is not the issue (I'm sure, MT, that your Facebook feed is just as littered as mine with "Obama wants to take our guns away!" and "if more people at the scene had been armed then maybe this wouldn't have happened!" Stuff ). It's almost as if they're saying that the right to bear weapons is so effing vital that all of these senseless slaughters is just simply the price of doing business.

the anti-gun crowd is equally lame here by thinking that more control laws will solve these problems, when it seems that many/most of these horror shows are committed by people who acquired guns legally.

what we don't hear from either side is some kind of reasonable plan to address getting guns out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them. I don't know if such a plan can even be achieved, but it's a gigantic FAIL to continue to allow people on the effing no fly list or terrorist watch list or whatever list to still be able to purchase guns. There is absolutely no logic to this. "We're afraid, Habib, that you might try to use this plane as a missile so you can't fly on it, but here's a 2-for-1 coupon to Billy Bobs gun emporium on route 37."

[Jason]

10 minutes ago, Thomas said:

I would chastise @nate for making generalizations so broad that Republicans talking about Muslims would blush but it's hard to do that when elected officials are doing the same thing this week.

http://theweek.com/articles/631457/democratic-party-selling-gun-control-like-dick-cheney-thats-problem

Lol at "Due process is killing us". What a moron

[arch stanton]

9 minutes ago, nate said:

But they are.  They vote for these people because they claim they will protect their gun rights.  Maybe they should stop voting against them because they are so negligent and stupid.

Relax Nate. Senator McCain is going to fix everything by giving the FBI your browser history.

[Jason]

4 minutes ago, Tank said:

It seems to me that gun advocates/second amendment rights folks/the NRA supporters don't want any kind of limitation on the ability to own, use, or purchase guns. Every single time one of these tragedies happen - and they're happening more frequently - they view that gun control is not the issue (I'm sure, MT, that your Facebook feed is just as littered as mine with "Obama wants to take our guns away!" and "if more people at the scene had been armed then maybe this wouldn't have happened!" Stuff ). It's almost as if they're saying that the right to bear weapons is so effing vital that all of these senseless slaughters is just simply the price of doing business.

the anti-gun crowd is equally lame here by thinking that more control laws will solve these problems, when it seems that many/most of these horror shows are committed by people who acquired guns legally.

what we don't hear from either side is some kind of reasonable plan to address getting guns out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them. I don't know if such a plan can even be achieved, but it's a gigantic FAIL to continue to allow people on the effing no fly list or terrorist watch list or whatever list to still be able to purchase guns. There is absolutely no logic to this. "We're afraid, Habib, that you might try to use this plane as a missile so you can't fly on it, but here's a 2-for-1 coupon to Billy Bobs gun emporium on route 37."

At this time it is done without due process. That is a problem. If someone is that dangerous they should be locked up.