The Official Los Angeles Angels 2017 Minor League Statlines & Prospects thread

[Stradling]

Where would you guys rank those two dudes from the Bahamas?

[totdprods]

12 hours ago, Stradling said:

Where would you guys rank those two dudes from the Bahamas?

I can't rank them yet - didn't feel comfortable ranking Canning yet either. Just too difficult (for me at least) without them playing.

[totdprods]

Friday, September 1st, 2017: 
Salt Lake (71-68) lost 2-5 vs. Fresno (75-64)
David Fletcher: 0-5
Michael Hermosillo: 1-3, R, BB
Zach Houchins: 0-2. 2 BB
Sherman Johnson: 2-4, 2B, RBI, K
John Lamb: 6 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 5 BB, 6 K, 2 HR
Eduardo Paredes: IP, BB, 3 K

Mobile (63-73) lost 2-5 vs. Biloxi (69-65)
Brennon Lund: 0-4, K
Matt Thaiss: 1-3, BB, K, SB (4)
Taylor Ward: 1-3, RBI, BB, 2 K, E (4)
Jose Rojas: 2-4
Alberto Triunfel: 1-3, R, HR (3), RBI, BB, 2 K, E (10)
Jesus Castillo (5th start at AA): 5 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 0 ER, BB, 5 K - at Mobile (5 GS, 23.2 IP): 3.04 ERA, .287 BAA,  1.39 WHIP, 6 BB, 22 K
Abel de los Santos: 2 IP, 4 K

Inland Empire (65-72) won 9-2 vs. Lancaster (76-61)
Jahmai Jones; 1-5, 2B, 2 RBI
Jack Kruger: 2-5, 2 R, 2B
Jared Walsh: 2-5, R, 2B, 2 RBI, K
Jake Yacinich: 2-5, 2 R, 3B
Erik Manoah: 5 IP, 3 H, ER, 3 BB, K
Winston Lavendier: 3 IP, 2 H, 2 K
Let's take a moment and appreciate...
Keith Grieshaber: 3-5 - quietly putting up a solid year at Burlington/IE: 78 G, 288 AB, .285/.366/.413/.779 with 28 XBH, 23 BB, 44 K, 24 SB
He has done nothing but hit since being drafted Rd. 16 in '16 draft, and now owns a career slash of .298/.364/.410/.774 with a nice blend of pop, contact, and speed, all while playing 2B, 3B, SS, and a few games in RF this season as well. Only 22.

Burlington (59-77) won 5-4 vs. Cedar Rapids (74-63)
Leonardo Rivas: 0-4, BB, K
Johan Todd: 0-4, K - hitting .194 in last 10 games
Brandon Sandoval: 2-4, 2 R, K, SB (4)
Big night for Burlington pitching - 9 IP, 16 K
Jose Suarez: 5 IR, 6 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, 2 HR
Zac Ryan: 2 IP, 5 K - at Burlington (28.2 IP): 0.63 ERA, .181 BAA, 1.08 WHIP, 12 BB, 33 K
Jonah Wesely: 2 IP, BB, 5 K

Orem (45-22) won 10-4 vs. Ogden (42-26)
Jo Adell: did not play
Torii Hunter: 2-5, R, K, E (2)
Julio Garcia: 0-4, R, RBI, BB, K, CS (1)
Brandon Marsh: 1-4, 2 RBI, 2 K
Ryan Vega: 1-4, 2 R, 2B, BB, K
Manuel Guzman: 2-5, 2 R, HR (5), 2 RBI, K
Kevin Williams: 2-5, 3 K
Jeyson Sanchez: 3-5, R, 2B, HR (13), 3 RBI, K, 2 E (6) - LOL: 23 G, 90 AB: 10 doubles, 13 home runs, 40 RBI .967 SLG
Angel Molina: 3-5, 2 R, E (4)
Edrick Agosto: 4.2 IP, 3 H, ER, 4 BB, 4 K
Jeremy Beasley: 2.2 IP, H, 2 R, 0 ER, 4 K
Daniel Procopio: 1.2 IP, 2 H, R, 0 ER, 4 K - in 19.2 IP, 12 BB, 27 K, 2.75 ERA, .181 BAA, 1.27 WHIP

AZL Angels (30-26) won 10-4 vs. AZL Mariners (31-23)
Jacob Pearson: 2-5, RBI, K, SB (5), CS (3) - hitting .268 in last 10 games. Baby steps.
Zane Gurwitz: 1-4, R, HR (2), 2 RBI, K
Brendon Sanger (rehab): 2-5, 2 R, HR (1), RBI, K 
Jimmy Barnes: 2-4, BB, K, CS (2), OF assist
Nonie Williams: 3-5, 2 R, K  - great break out after an 0-16 stretch with 13 strikeouts
Connor Fitzsimmons: 2-5, R, 2 3B, 4 RBI, K SB (1, home)
Caleb Scires: 0-2, 2 R, 3 BB, 2 K, 2 SB (4)
Wilkel Hernandez: 3.2 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 4 BB, 4 K, HR
Jorge Tavarez: 2.1 IP, 6 K
Vicente Campos (rehab): IP, H, ER, BB, 2 K
Keep an eye on...
Gleyvin Pineda: 2-4, 2 R, RBI, BB, K - second year stateside, and he's slashing .316/.397/.383/.781 in 40 G, 18 BB, 29 K
 

[totdprods]

Friday, September 1st, 2017: 
Salt Lake (71-68) lost 2-5 vs. Fresno (75-64)
David Fletcher: 0-5
Michael Hermosillo: 1-3, R, BB
Zach Houchins: 0-2. 2 BB
Sherman Johnson: 2-4, 2B, RBI, K
John Lamb: 6 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 5 BB, 6 K, 2 HR
Eduardo Paredes: IP, BB, 3 K

Mobile (63-73) lost 2-5 vs. Biloxi (69-65)
Brennon Lund: 0-4, K
Matt Thaiss: 1-3, BB, K, SB (4)
Taylor Ward: 1-3, RBI, BB, 2 K, E (4)
Jose Rojas: 2-4
Alberto Triunfel: 1-3, R, HR (3), RBI, BB, 2 K, E (10)
Jesus Castillo (5th start at AA): 5 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 0 ER, BB, 5 K - at Mobile (5 GS, 23.2 IP): 3.04 ERA, .287 BAA,  1.39 WHIP, 6 BB, 22 K
Abel de los Santos: 2 IP, 4 K

Inland Empire (65-72) won 9-2 vs. Lancaster (76-61)
Jahmai Jones; 1-5, 2B, 2 RBI
Jack Kruger: 2-5, 2 R, 2B
Jared Walsh: 2-5, R, 2B, 2 RBI, K
Jake Yacinich: 2-5, 2 R, 3B
Erik Manoah: 5 IP, 3 H, ER, 3 BB, K
Winston Lavendier: 3 IP, 2 H, 2 K
Let's take a moment and appreciate...
Keith Grieshaber: 3-5 - quietly putting up a solid year at Burlington/IE: 78 G, 288 AB, .285/.366/.413/.779 with 28 XBH, 23 BB, 44 K, 24 SB
He has done nothing but hit since being drafted Rd. 16 in '16 draft, and now owns a career slash of .298/.364/.410/.774 with a nice blend of pop, contact, and speed, all while playing 2B, 3B, SS, and a few games in RF this season as well. Only 22.

Burlington (59-77) won 5-4 vs. Cedar Rapids (74-63)
Leonardo Rivas: 0-4, BB, K
Johan Todd: 0-4, K - hitting .194 in last 10 games
Brandon Sandoval: 2-4, 2 R, K, SB (4)
Big night for Burlington pitching - 9 IP, 16 K
Jose Suarez: 5 IR, 6 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, 2 HR
Zac Ryan: 2 IP, 5 K - at Burlington (28.2 IP): 0.63 ERA, .181 BAA, 1.08 WHIP, 12 BB, 33 K
Jonah Wesely: 2 IP, BB, 5 K

Orem (45-22) won 10-4 vs. Ogden (42-26)
Jo Adell: did not play
Torii Hunter: 2-5, R, K, E (2)
Julio Garcia: 0-4, R, RBI, BB, K, CS (1)
Brandon Marsh: 1-4, 2 RBI, 2 K
Ryan Vega: 1-4, 2 R, 2B, BB, K
Manuel Guzman: 2-5, 2 R, HR (5), 2 RBI, K
Kevin Williams: 2-5, 3 K
Jeyson Sanchez: 3-5, R, 2B, HR (13), 3 RBI, K, 2 E (6) - LOL: 23 G, 90 AB: 10 doubles, 13 home runs, 40 RBI .967 SLG
Angel Molina: 3-5, 2 R, E (4)
Edrick Agosto: 4.2 IP, 3 H, ER, 4 BB, 4 K
Jeremy Beasley: 2.2 IP, H, 2 R, 0 ER, 4 K
Daniel Procopio: 1.2 IP, 2 H, R, 0 ER, 4 K - in 19.2 IP, 12 BB, 27 K, 2.75 ERA, .181 BAA, 1.27 WHIP

AZL Angels (30-26) won 10-4 vs. AZL Mariners (31-23)
Jacob Pearson: 2-5, RBI, K, SB (5), CS (3) - hitting .268 in last 10 games. Baby steps.
Zane Gurwitz: 1-4, R, HR (2), 2 RBI, K
Brendon Sanger (rehab): 2-5, 2 R, HR (1), RBI, K 
Jimmy Barnes: 2-4, BB, K, CS (2), OF assist
Nonie Williams: 3-5, 2 R, K  - great break out after an 0-16 stretch with 13 strikeouts
Connor Fitzsimmons: 2-5, R, 2 3B, 4 RBI, K SB (1, home)
Caleb Scires: 0-2, 2 R, 3 BB, 2 K, 2 SB (4)
Wilkel Hernandez: 3.2 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 4 BB, 4 K, HR
Jorge Tavarez: 2.1 IP, 6 K
Vicente Campos (rehab): IP, H, ER, BB, 2 K
Keep an eye on...
Gleyvin Pineda: 2-4, 2 R, RBI, BB, K - second year stateside, and he's slashing .316/.397/.383/.781 in 40 G, 18 BB, 29 K
As an organization we're terribly short on infield prospects - with Pineda, Garcia, and Rivas all having good seasons in the low minors, things are looking a little brighter.
 

[fanfromday1]

19 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

My top 10:

1. Roberto Baldoquin

2. Chevy Clarke

4. Johnny Hellweg

5. Hunter Green

6. Joe Torres

7. Jon Bachanov

8. Jeff Mathis, Jr

9. Brian Specht

10. John Orton

 

What was the name (I believe he was a pitcher) of the player the Angels drafted a few years ago, whose grandfather was Bozo the Clown? Did he ever advance through the system, or was he traded away?

[Blarg]

That was Trevor Bell that complained Scioscia never gave him a chance. He had two extended runs with the Angels but wasn't very good. The Angels traded him and he completely fell off the cliff. 

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

That was Trevor Bell that complained Scioscia never gave him a chance. He had two extended runs with the Angels but wasn't very good. The Angels traded him and he completely fell off the cliff. 

Isn't he the same dolt that created the Big Catorce moniker?

[Stradling]

8 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Isn't he the same dolt that created the Big Catorce moniker?

Yes.  He posts under his alias, AnaheimBob. 

[Second Base]

Regarding Nonie Williams - I think as the Angels completely overhaul his swing, it's understandable if it takes him a year to get accustomed to it. 

Big leaguers become so untuned with their swings that they can frequently self-diagnose and even alter it to fit their circumstances. With a new swing, it basically doesn't belong to him. It isn't innate, he can't correct it, he can't alter it.

[totdprods]

Saturday, September 2nd, 2017
Salt Lake (71-6( lost 2-4 to Fresno (76-64)
David Fletcher: 1-3
Michael Hermosillo: 0-3, RBI, 2 K
Rey Navarro: 2-4, R, 2B
Jefry Marte: 0-4
Manny Banuelos: 4.1 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 6 K
Drew Gagnon: 3 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 6 K

Mobile (64-73) won 7-3 vs. Biloxi (69-66)
Brennon Lund: 1-4, R, BB
Matt Thaiss: 0-2, R, 2 BB, 2 K
Taylor Ward: 2-4, R, RBI
Jose Rojas: 0-3, BB, 3 K, E (6)
Zach Gibbons: 1-4, R, 2B, 2 RBI, K, SB (6)
Michael Barash (AA debut): 1-4, R, RBI, K SB (1)
Derek Jenkins (AA debut): 0-3, BB, 3 K
Matt McCann (3rd game at AA, promoted from Orem): 2-4, R, K
Tyler Warmoth (1st pro GS): 3 IP, R, 0 ER, BB, 4 K - on the season (A+/AA/AAA): 60.2 IP, 2.97 ERA, .228 BAA, 1.20 WHIP, 21 BB, 62 K
Jackson Zarubin (AA debut): 3 IP, H, 2 BB, 2 K
Jhondaniel Medina: 2 IP, H, 4 K  - last 10 games (21 IP): 2.14 ERA, 13 H, 12 BB, 22 K

Inland Empire (65-73) lost 4-5 in 12 innings vs. Lancaster (77-61)
Jahmai Jones: 2-5, 2B, BB, CS (6)
Jared Walsh: 1-4, R, 2B, 2 K
Kyle Survance, Jr: 1-5, R, HR (4), 3 RBI
Jose Rodriguez: 8 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 4 K, HR
Sean Isaac: 3 IP, H, 4 K

Burlington (60-77) won 7-5 vs. Clinton (62-73)
Brandon Sandoval: 1-5, R
Artemis Kadkhodaian: 2-5, R, 2B
Richard Fecteau: 2-5, RBI
Sam McDonnell: 4-4, 2 R, 2B, RBI  - hitting .324 in last 10 games
Stephen Kerr: 2-4, 2 R, HR (1), 2 RBI
Franklin Navarro: 2-3, R, 2 RBI, BB, K
Adrian Almeida: 2 IP, 3 K
Turning in a good start....
Chris Rodriguez: 5 IP, 6 H, R, 0 ER, 5 K, E (1) - for a 19 year old, not bad at Burlington: 6 GS, 24.2 IP, 7 BB, 24 K, 5.84 ERA, .314 BAA, 1.58 WHIP

Orem (45-23) lost 4-16 vs. Ogden (43-26)
Jo Adell: 0-5, 4 K
Torii Hunter: 1-3, R, 2B, BB, K, E (3)
Kevin Williams: 1-4, R, HR (3), RBI, K - 21 year old, 13th Rd. 2017 pick, first 12 career games: .298/.365/.553/.919 with 3 2B, 3 HR, 4 BB, 14 K
Christoper Molina: 1.1 IP, 6 H, 8 R, 7 ER, 4 BB, 2 K, HR

[Pheenom07]

Hopefully Adell can work on his eye/patience in the offseason.  As he works his way up, pitchers will really start to take advantage of his swing and miss tendencies.  

[Second Base]

On 9/1/2017 at 7:12 PM, Stradling said:

Where would you guys rank those two dudes from the Bahamas?

When it comes to ranking system nternational players that you've only seen video on and read a scouting report, I tend to go with a rather simple estimate. However much the bonus was, align it with the draft slot for the MLB draft. The MLBPA and owners have tried to align bonuses from international signings with that of a draft signing bonus as a way of skirting an international draft which would cost millions in terms of manpower. 

It isn't a perfect comp because the international budget tends to be less than half of the draft budget. So someone like Deveaux, his 1.2 million bonus would fall in line with a late second round or early third round pick. 

The end result is I rank Deveaux pretty closely with Pearson from this draft, which is generally around #10. There are some particulars to consider, like Deveaux being a year younger and with greater upside, and the Bahamas really becoming a burgeoning market for top international talent. Still it gives you a general area.

Knowles will likely be somewhere 20-25 in my own rankings as well. We'll see where he ends up with AW though. We take a few rankings and find a mean. Some of the guys here just don't care about upside as much as proximity. Nothing wrong with that. It's just personal preference. So Knowles might be skipped over altogether by others because he didn't grab headlines like Deveaux or Adell.

[Angel Oracle]

Get every pitcher up here they can.

[totdprods]

Sunday, September 3rd, 2017
Salt Lake (72-69) won 10-8 vs. Fresno (76-65)
David Fletcher: 3-5, 2 R, SB (8)
Michael Hermosillo: 1-5, 2B, RBI, K
Shane Robinson: 3-5, 2 R, 2B, 3B, 2 RBI, SB (15), E (3)
Zach Houchins: 2-5, 2 R, 3B
Dustin Ackley: 2-2, 2 R, walk-off HR (6), 2 RBI, 3 BB
Jaime Barria: 4.2 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 3 BB, 4 K, 87 pitches, 54 strikes
Deolis Guerra: 2 IP, H, 3 K

Mobile (64-74) lost 2-4 in 13 innings vs. Biloxi (70-66)
Brennon Lund: 2-5, 2B, BB, K, OF assist
Matt Thaiss: 0-4, R, 2 BB, K - hitting .194 in last 10 games
Taylor Ward: 0-6, 2 K - hitting .189 in last 10 games
Jose Rojas: 0-5, BB
Zach Gibbons: 1-4, RBI, BB
Michael Barash (2nd AA game): 1-4, RBI, 2 BB, K
Jake Jewell: 5 IP, 3 H, ER, 4 BB, 2 K
Jeremy Rhoades: 3 IP, 2 H, ER, 5 K
Damien Magnifico: 2 IP, BB, 3 K

Inland Empire (65-74) lost 4-5 vs. Lancaster (78-61)
Jahmai Jones: 0-4, 2 K - hitting .214 in last 10 games
Jordan Zimmerman: 2-4, 2B, BB, K
Jared Walsh: 3-5, R, 2B, 2 RBI
Keith Grieshaber: 2-4, SB (13)
Nate Bertness (6th GS at IE): 6 IP, 7 H, 5 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 2 HR - 33 IP, 3.55 ERA, .280 BAA, 1.36 WHIP, 8 BB, 31 K
Sam Holland: 2 IP, H, K

Burlington (60-78) lost 4-8 vs. Clinton (63-73)
Leonardo Rivas: 1-4, 2 R, 2B, K
Jonah Todd: 1-5, R, RBI, K, E (1)
Brandon Sandoval: 1-4, SB (5)
Elvin Rodriguez (3rd GS at Burlington): 5 IP, 7 H, 4 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, HR
Tyler Stevens: 2 IP, 5 K

Orem (46-23) won 11-3 vs. Idaho Falls (30-40)
Jo Adell: 1-5, 2 R, RBI, K
Ryan Vega: 3-5, 2 R, 2B, 2 RBI, K
Brandon Marsh: 1-5, 2B, 2 RBI, 2 K
Cam Williams: 2-4, 3 R, 2B, HR (1), 3 RBI, BB, 2 K
Big rebound start from....
Cole Duensing: 5 IP, H, BB, 3 K

[Ochocinco!]

Why hasn't Guerra been called up yet he's been solid as of late and we need any and all pitchers with a healthy arm 

[totdprods]

Monday, September 4th, 2017
Salt Lake (72-70) lost 7-9 vs. Fresno (77-65)
David Fletcher: 1-5, R, K
Michael Hermosillo: 1-5, RBI, SB (9)
Rey Navarro: 2-4, 2 R, RBI, BB, K 
Zach Houchins (4th game at AAA): 3-4, 2 R, 2B, 3B, 2 RBI - posted a nice .500/.588/1.000/1.588 in first AAA stint, could have a big '18 at SLC
Dustin Ackley: 2-4, 2B, R, 2 RBI, K
Alex Klonowski: 4 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, BB, 3 K
Vicente Campos: IP, H

Mobile (64-75) lost 0-5 to Biloxi (71-66)
Brennon Lund: 0-4
Matt Thaiss: 0-3, BB, 2 K
Taylor Ward: 0-4
Jose Rojas: 0-3
Zach Gibbons: 0-3
Michael Barash (3rd game at AA): 2-3 - comfortable .364/.462/.364/.825 line for his AA stint
Luis Pena: 6 IP, 4 H, ER, 2 BB, 3 K
Kevin Grendell: 2 IP, 3 H, 4 ER, BB, K, HR - rough '17 for a promising lefty - 22 IP, 9.00 ERA, 29 BB, 25 K, 7 HRA

Inland Empire (65-75) lost 4-11 to Lancaster (79-61)
Jahmai Jones: 0-5, 2 K
Jared Walsh: 2-4, R, RBI, BB
Connor Justus: 2-3, 2B, RBI, BB, E (20)

Burlington (60-79) lost 0-1 vs. Clinton (64-73)
Leonardo Rivas: 1-2, pulled early
Jonah Todd: 0-4
Richard Fecteau: 2-3, 2B, BB
Brandon Sandoval: 0-4, K
Andrew Vinson: 5 IP, 4 H, ER, K - good rebound start
Jonah Wesely: IP 
Carlos Salazar: IP, H

Orem (46-24) lost 7-8 vs. Idaho Falls (31-40)
Jo Adell: 3-5, R, K
Torii Hunter: 2-5, R, 3 RBI, K
Brandon Marsh: 0-5
Manuel Guzman: 2-2, 2 R, 2 BB, CS (6)
Harrison Wenson: 2-5, 2 R, 2B, RBI, 2 K
Angel Molina: 2-4, R, 2B, RBI, K
Jeremy Beasley: 2.1 IP, 2 H, 2 K

[Scott34]

Bummer to see Jahmai end his season 0-9 but he more than held his own this year. I hope they give him a full year in the minors next year (IE to start and Mobile at the break if he is still producing) and then give him a look in Spring '19. 

For me it's

1. Adell

2. Jones

3. Barria 

4. Marsh

5. Rivas

I feel like people are sleeping on Rivas. .430 on base with a ~127 wRC+ as a 19 year old? If dude puts on some weight he could be dangerous. Even if he can't, slide him over to 2B and let him focus on his hitting. 

[totdprods]

Tuesday, September 5th, 2017:
Orem (47-24) won 3-1 vs. Idaho Falls (31-41)
Jo Adell: 2-4, BB, K
Torii Hunter: 2-4, RBI, BB, 2 SB (13)
Brandon Marsh: 1-5, 2 R, 2B, K
Keinner Pina: 1-3, BB
Kevin Williams: 2-4, K
Franklin Torres: 2-4, 2B, K
Simon Mathews: 5 IP, 3 H, ER, BB, 3 K
James Ziemba: 2 IP, H, BB
Daniel Procopio: 2 IP, H, 2 BB, 5 K - hit 100 on the radar gun

[Dick B Back]

Torii Torii!

[totdprods]

1 minute ago, Dick B Back said:

Torii Torii!

What a great debut. I kinda hope they send him straight to Inland Empire to pair him with some more age appropriate competition while still keeping him in a good hitting-environment. 

That said, if most of this year's Orem crop goes to Burlington, it may be a good offensive unit there as well.

[Dick B Back]

Just now, totdprods said:

What a great debut. I kinda hope they send him straight to Inland Empire to pair him with some more age appropriate competition while still keeping him in a good hitting-environment. 

That said, if most of this year's Orem crop goes to Burlington, it may be a good offensive unit there as well.

Agreed! Great stats for a non-baseball player, eh?

[Chuck]

I would like for them to skip the cold Iowa area in Burlington and send our top three stud OF's right to High-A ball.

Move Torii, Marsh and Adell together and to the 66ers. Jones up to Double-A. 

[totdprods]

Just now, Dick B Back said:

Agreed! Great stats for a non-baseball player, eh?

There didn't really seem to be any major weaknesses to his game and that was what excited me most. Hope he can replicate against better competition.

[totdprods]

35 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I would like for them to skip the cold Iowa area in Burlington and send our top three stud OF's right to High-A ball.

Move Torii, Marsh and Adell together and to the 66ers. Jones up to Double-A. 

That's exactly what I want to see also. 
I'd be fine with Adell or Marsh starting in Burlington and getting someone like Ryan Vega straight to IE too. 

Or Jonah Todd or Brandon Sandoval to IE.

[Chuck]

Just now, totdprods said:

That's exactly what I want to see also. 
I'd be fine with Adell or Marsh starting in Burlington and getting someone like Ryan Vega straight to IE too. 

Yeah... It's just that there's so many games in April and May that get postponed and when they do play it's as cold AF. The pitchers get the clear advantage in that league. 

Why not get them in warm weather and keep them together since they've played so well as a trio together in Orem?