The Official Los Angeles Angels 2017 Minor League Statlines & Prospects thread

[totdprods]

Friday, August 25th, 2017:
Salt Lake (66-66) lost 1-3 to Albuquerque (63-68)
Michael Hermosillo: 1-4, K, OF assist
David Fletcher: 1-3, R, SB (7)
Daniel Wright: 7 IP, 3 ER, BB, 5 K
Noe Ramirez: IP

Mobile (61-68) lost 0-4 vs. Biloxi (65-62)
Matt Thaiss: 0-4, 2 K, E (2) - still slashing a robust .315/.420/.420/.840 in 39 G, 143 AB with 13 XBH, 27 BB, 39 K
Taylor Ward: 0-2, 2 BB, K - his AA slash is also still pretty - .326/.455/.465/.920 in 26 G, 86 AB with 6 XBH, 20 BB, 12 K
Luis Pena (Second AA start): 4.1 IP, 5 H, ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 85 pitches, 48 strikes -  last 10 GS: 57.2 IP, 3.75 ERA, 59 H, 17 BB, 73 K - only 22 years old

Inland Empire (60-71) lost 1-12 to Rancho Cucamonga (73-58)
Jahmai Jones: 0-2, BB - the streak is over at 25 games
Erik Manoah (2nd A+ start): 2.2 IP, 5 H, 6 ER, 4 BB, 5 K, HR 

Burlington (57-73) won 6-5 vs. Beloit (60-69)
Leonardo Rivas: 1-3, 2 R, BB, K - finally getting a groove in Burl., .333 in last 10 games, with 11 BB, 8 K - slash of .274/.438/.323/.760 overall at Burl.
Jonah Todd: 1-4, R, RBI, BB
Richard Fecteau: 2-4, R, RBI
Brandon Sandoval: 2-4, R, RBI, OF assist
Luis Madero: 4 IP, 8 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, K, HR
Let's take a look at...
Carlos Salazar: 2 IP, H, 3 K - he has been outrageously wild his entire career - in 218.1 IP he's struck out 256 - but walked 198! But he has also been very difficult to hit - only a .213 BAA in that time, and only 10 home runs allowed (or 0.4 HR/9) so walks have always been his downfall. 
Could the Angels find a way to rein in his control without affecting his strikeouts, or without making him more hittable?
with the Braves: H9 7.1 HR9 0.4 BB9 8.4 K9 10.1 ERA 4.85
with the Angels: H9 6.5 HR9 0.6 BB9 6.8 K9 13.7 ERA 3.72
Small sample size, but good return so far, and chance that at only 22 he could still shoot up as a relief prospect very quickly.

Orem (40-20) won 11-1 vs. Grand Junction (32-29)
Jo Adell: 3-5, R, 2B, 3B, 2 RBI - missed the cycle by a HR
Julio Garcia: 0-4, R, E (1)
Brandon Marsh: 3-4, 3 R, 2B, HR (4), 3 RBI - missed the cycle by a 3B
Jeyson Sanchez: 2-4, 2 R, 2 HR (10), 5 RBI - leads all Angels minor leagues with 14 HR. In 17 G, 62 AB - .419/.486/1.016/1.502 with 10 HR
Kevin Williams: 1-3, R, 2B, BB, K, E (2)
Simon Mathews: 5 IP, H, ER, 2 BB, 7 K, HR - undrafted FA signed this year: 42 IP, 3.21 ERA, 13 BB, 47 K, .261 BAA, 1.33 WHIP (AZL/Mob/Orem)
Jason Alexander: 4 IP, 2 H, 6 K 

AZL Angels (27-23) won 6-5 vs. AZL Padres (23-26)
Jacob Pearson: 0-3, R, 2 BB, SB (4)
Kevin Arias: 2-4, R, RBI, BB, K, SB (1)
Brendon Sanger: 0-3, BB, K - rehab assignment, second game
Jared Foster: 0-2, 2 R, RBI, BB, K - rehab assignment, second game
Gleyvin Pineda: 2-3, R, RBI, BB, K, E (5)
Dylan Woods: 2-3, 2 RBI, BB, K
Jose Soriano: 5 IP, H, BB, 6 K - 6'3", 170, RHP, 18 years old - in AZL: 45 IP, 3.20 ERA, .237 BAA, 1.18 WHIP, 13 BB, 33 K

DSL Angels (34-35) lost 2-3 vs. DSL Twins (49-21)
Oliver Carmona: 0-2, 2 BB
Miguel de la Cruz: 1-3, RBI, BB, K, CS (11)
Tulio Santa Maria: 4 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 0 ER, BB, 4 K  - 6'4", 170, RHP, 17 year old - 51 IP, 2.65 ERA, .230 BAA, 1.18 WHIP, 19 BB, 41 K

[SoWhat]

Adell and Marsh 

[Angelsjunky]

I'm kind of surprised Pearson has struggled so much this year. I was under the impression he was relatively polished. Not sure why he's struggled so much in AZL.

I'm not quite worried yet, just more in the "hmm" stage. If he struggles to start next year in low-A ball (assuming they don't send him to extended camp and then Orem), I will be concerned.

[tdawg87]

The Angels could really be aggressive with Marsh and Adell next year by starting them both at Inland Empire.

For reference, Trout was in A+ to finish his age 18 season, and in AA by his age 19 season. 

Marsh will be 20 and Adell will be 19.

Almost certainly not going to happen but it would definitely signal a huge change in this org's philosophy.

[totdprods]

Saturday, August 26th, 2017:
Salt Lake (67-66) won 6-4 vs. Albuquerque (63-69)
Eric Young, Jr: 2-5, R, RBI, K
Michael Hermosillo: 0-4, K
Ramon Flores: 1-5, HR (8), 2 RBI, K - slashing .323/.418/.468/.887 with 34 XBH, 63 BB, 65 K, 9 SB in 106 AAA games
Carlos Perez: 1-3, R, 3B, BB
David Fletcher: 3-4, R, HR (1), 2 RBI
Nolan Fontana: 0-1, R, 3 RBI, SB (13) - slashing .275/.396/.456/.852 with 39 XBH, 71 BB, 92 K, 13 SB in 101 G, 349 AB at AAA
Sherman Johnson: 1-3, R, BB, 2 K - last year for Sherm in Halos org? He's 27 and his .228/.346/.332/.678 line at AAA isn't much. 45 BB, 59 K
Osmer Morales: 5 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 5 K, HR - 24 years old, in 7 AAA GS: 3.72 ERA, .252 BAA, 1.37 WHIP, 16 BB, 31 K
Jason Gurka: 0.2 IP, K
Deolis Guerra: 0.2 IP, BB
Fernando Salas: IP, 2 BB, 2 K

Mobile (62-68) won 4-3 in 12 innings vs. Montgomery (73-58)
Brennon Lund: 1-6, R, 2B, 3 K
Matt Thaiss: 2-4, 2B, 2 RBI
Zach Gibbons: 2-5, R, K
Alberto Triunfel: 3-5, R, RBI, K, CS (8)
Jhondaniel Medina: 1.2 IP, 3 H, 2 K - in last 10 games, 19.2 IP: 1.83 ERA, 12 H, 10 BB, 17 K
Greg Mahle: 2 IP, 3 K - in last 10 games, 17.2 IP, 1.53 ERA, 13 H, 2 BB, 18 K
Connor Lillis-White: 3 IP, H, 3 K - good rebound outing - in last 7 games, had allowed 12 ER in last 8 IP

Inland Empire (61-71) won 11-6 vs. Rancho Cucamonga (73-59)
Jahmai Jones: did not play
Jordan Zimmerman: 3-5, R, 2 2B, RBI, K
Jared Walsh: 2-3, 3 R, 2B, HR (8), 2 RBI, 2 BB - hitting .318/.385/.517/.902 at Inland Empire, 31 XBH, 25 BB, 64 K in 62 G, 242 AB
Kyle Survance, Jr.: 1-5, R, HR (3), 2 RBI, 3 K
Jordan Serena: 1-4, R, HR (2), 3 RBI, 3 K
Joe Gatto (5th A+ start): 5.2 IP, 7 H 3 ER, BB, 7 K
Samil de los Santos: 2 IP, 3 H, BB, 3 K

Burlington (58-73) won 6-0 vs. Beloit (60-70)
Leonardo Rivas: 1-4, 2 K, E (5)
Jonah Todd: 1-3, R, 2B
Brandon Sandoval: 1-3, 2 R, BB, SB (3), OF assist
Brennan Morgan: 2-4, 2 R, 2 2B, 3 RBI, K
Jose Suarez: 5 IP, 2 H, BB, 4 K - in last 10 GS, 48.1 IP - 1.68 ERA, 31 H, 14 BB, 70 K
Justin Kelly: 2 IP, H, 2 BB, K - 24 year old lefty has pitched at least two games for Orem, Burlington, IE, Mobile, and Salt Lake with 3.77 ERA 

Orem (41-20) won 20-5 vs. Grand Junction (32-30)
Jo Adell: 3-7, 5 R, 2B, RBI, SB (1)
Julio Garcia (SS): 4-6, 3 R, 4 2B, 4 RBI, K - total slash on the year is .296/.364/.447/.811 with 21 XBH, 22 BB, 39 K in 51 G, 179 AB
Brandon Marsh: 2-7, 3 RBI, SB (7)
Jeyson Sanchez: 3-6, 2 R, HR (11), 4 RBI, K - 8 HR in last 10 games. Orem slash is hilarious: .426/.487/1.015/1.502 with 7 2B, 11 HR in 18 G
Harrison Wenson:  1-5, 2 R, HR (13), 2 RBI, BB - in 29 G, 7 2B, 13 HR, 46 RBI, 18 BB, 23 K - .327/.436/.757/1.193
Torii Hunter: 2-4, 3 R, 2 BB, SB (11)
Angel Molina: 3-6, 2 R, HR (3), 2 RBI, K
Cam Williams: 0-2, 2 R, RBI, 4 BB, 2 K
Mayky Perez: 5 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 7 K
Keith Rogalla: 2 IP, 2 H, ER, 3 K

AZL Angels (28-23) won 4-2 vs. AZL Brewers (30-21)
Game ended early when Brewers prospect Julio Mendez was HBP by Angels P Austin Krzeminski, pretty serious apparently.
Jacob Pearson: 3-5, 2 2B
Kevin Arias: 1-3, R, RBI, BB, K, 3 SB (4)
Brendon Sanger (rehab): 0-4, BB, K
Jared Foster (rehab): 0-4, RBI
Mario Sanjur: 2-3, 2 R, 2B, RBI, BB
Vicente Campos (rehab): IP, H, K
Wilkel Hernandez: 1.2 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 3 K
Jon Malmin: 3.1 IP, 2 H, 5 K
Hector Yan: IP, H, 2 K

DSL Angels (35-35) won 4-3 vs. DSL Twins (49-22)
Miguel de la Cruz: 2-3, 2 R, 2B, RBI, BB
Cristian Gomez: 2-3, RBI
Robinson Pina: 5 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, BB, 8 K - 18 years old, 6'4", 180, 51.1 IP, 3.68 ERA, .188 BAA, 1.15 WHIP, 24 BB, 47 K
Kiber Arvelaez: 2.1 IP, H, 2 K 

[Angelsjunky]

I could see them starting Marsh in IE, but probably not Adell, who will likely begin the year in Burlington and then, if all goes well, be promoted mid-season to IE.

On a different note, Sandoval seems like a sleeper and is moving up the ranks.

[Docwaukee]

I've decided on my new comp for Matt Thaiss.......Joey Votto.  

Thought of this as a bit of a joke at first, but it's not tremendously far off.  Votto's power started to develop much earlier.  Thaiss isn't likely to every be a 25-30 hr guy.  But a lot of the other periphs are pretty close.  

 

[Docwaukee]

btw, tonight was a rare org win.  doesn't happen often.  

[tdawg87]

19 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

I've decided on my new comp for Matt Thaiss.......Joey Votto.  

Thought of this as a bit of a joke at first, but it's not tremendously far off.  Votto's power started to develop much earlier.  Thaiss isn't likely to every be a 25-30 hr guy.  But a lot of the other periphs are pretty close.  

 

I was thinking more like Yonder Alonso but what the hell, shoot for the moon.

[Docwaukee]

32 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I was thinking more like Yonder Alonso but what the hell, shoot for the moon.

there's actually a bunch of good PD guys who developed power a bit down the line.  Matt Carpenter, Hosmer, Belt, Carlos Santana

[Chuck]

I still dont understand why Adell hasn't played in the OF yet. It's not like he's not using his wheels on the basepaths, why not the field?

[totdprods]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

I still dont understand why Adell hasn't played in the OF yet. It's not like he's not using his wheels on the basepaths, why not the field?

Pure guess on my part, but I'm assuming it's because he's young enough, athletic enough, and sound enough defensively already that they just want him to focus on the offensive side as he adjusts to better competition and pro ball. They don't want him risking getting hurt on the field and missing key time developing at the plate and don't feel his defense needs enough help to merit throwing him out there right away.

[Docwaukee]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

I still dont understand why Adell hasn't played in the OF yet. It's not like he's not using his wheels on the basepaths, why not the field?

I wonder if he's got a bit of a nagging arm issue.  He was also a pitcher in high school.  

Or they could be working him out at another position but he's not game ready yet.  My guess, is the above though.  

[TroutField]

15 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

The Angels could really be aggressive with Marsh and Adell next year by starting them both at Inland Empire.

For reference, Trout was in A+ to finish his age 18 season, and in AA by his age 19 season. 

Marsh will be 20 and Adell will be 19.

Almost certainly not going to happen but it would definitely signal a huge change in this org's philosophy.

I don't think they would have them totally skip Burlington, do you? Did Trout ever spend anytime in Burlington? 

 

Edit:

I looked it up, he totally skipped Orem and went straight to Cedar Rapids. I forgot they changed affiliates for their A team a few years ago.

[m0nkey]

10 hours ago, totdprods said:

AZL Angels (28-23) won 4-2 vs. AZL Brewers (30-21)
Game ended early when Brewers prospect Julio Mendez was HBP by Angels P Austin Krzeminski, pretty serious apparently.

Did a google search and apparently Mendez was hit in the chest and suffered a cardiac event.  Listed in critical but stable condition.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/brewers-farmhand-mendez-hospitalized/#OSKP9W21c0slp5pL.97

[Angelsjunky]

9 hours ago, Dochalo said:

I've decided on my new comp for Matt Thaiss.......Joey Votto.  

Thought of this as a bit of a joke at first, but it's not tremendously far off.  Votto's power started to develop much earlier.  Thaiss isn't likely to every be a 25-30 hr guy.  But a lot of the other periphs are pretty close.  

 

I hear what you are saying in terms of the type of player, in a similar sense that Bryan Buxton is a similar type of player as Mike Trout. Votto is a pure hitter whose power emerged from hitting the ball square, but not necessary trying to loft it over the fence every time. If Thaiss keeps doing what he's doing, he'll eventually hit in the .290-.300+ range, a .370+ OBP, and lots of doubles, and doubles sometimes turn into HR. But I don't see him ever hitting more than 20-25 HR a year, and maybe more in the 15-20 range.

I know I don't need to say this, but it is very unlikely that Thaiss is every as good as Votto. Votto is this era's Edgar Martinez - one of the three or four very best hitters of the last ten years, but also perhaps one of the most underappreciated super-stars.

[SoWhat]

2 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

I still dont understand why Adell hasn't played in the OF yet. It's not like he's not using his wheels on the basepaths, why not the field?

It's actually a small hamstring issue that's kept him from playing the field. 

[Docwaukee]

41 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I hear what you are saying in terms of the type of player, in a similar sense that Bryan Buxton is a similar type of player as Mike Trout. Votto is a pure hitter whose power emerged from hitting the ball square, but not necessary trying to loft it over the fence every time. If Thaiss keeps doing what he's doing, he'll eventually hit in the .290-.300+ range, a .370+ OBP, and lots of doubles, and doubles sometimes turn into HR. But I don't see him ever hitting more than 20-25 HR a year, and maybe more in the 15-20 range.

I know I don't need to say this, but it is very unlikely that Thaiss is every as good as Votto. Votto is this era's Edgar Martinez - one of the three or four very best hitters of the last ten years, but also perhaps one of the most underappreciated super-stars.

of course.  I was just comparing their minor league numbers.  Votto is a fringy HOFer.  I think if Thaiss become an average everyday 1bman, we'll be happy.  

[Angelsjunky]

14 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

of course.  I was just comparing their minor league numbers.  Votto is a fringy HOFer.  I think if Thaiss become an average everyday 1bman, we'll be happy.  

Votto has HoF talent, just needs HoF longevity. He is not so good (like Trout, or prime Pujols) that he just needs to get to 10 seasons to get in, which he's done already. He probably needs three or four more good seasons to get in.

As for Thaiss, the AL cumulative average for a 1B is .261/.337/.467 this year, although that includes many players who aren't regulars. So let's say an "average everyday first baseman" hits around .270/.340/.480, or something like that (and in a high offense context). I agree that is very possible for him, although would guess his version of that would be more like .290/.370/.450.

As I've said before, I think the worst-case reasonable scenario is that he hits around .270/.350/.400 with solid plate discipline but little power, and isn't good enough to be a regular but floats around as a platoon type or starter on either a non-championship team or one with no better options. The best-case scenario that is at all possible is that he continues to develop his already strong approach and the power eventually comes, and he turns into a borderline star, hitting close to .300/.400/.500 - sort of a poor man's Joey Votto. But more than likely, he hits somewhere in between: as I said, .290/.370/.450, which would be really nice to have in our lineup, but is not all-star caliber for a first baseman.

[ettin]

1 hour ago, m0nkey said:

Did a google search and apparently Mendez was hit in the chest and suffered a cardiac event.  Listed in critical but stable condition.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/brewers-farmhand-mendez-hospitalized/#OSKP9W21c0slp5pL.97

Hope he's okay, scary event.

[Chuck]

3 hours ago, SoWhat said:

It's actually a small hamstring issue that's kept him from playing the field. 

But he's stealing bases and legging out triples. . 

[totdprods]

Sunday, August 27th, 2017:
Salt Lake (68-66) won 8-1 vs. Albuquerque (63-70)
Michael Hermosillo: 3-4, 3 R, 2 HR (5), 4 RBI, BB - all he really has left to do is have his discipline translate to AAA
David Fletcher: 1-3, 2 RBI
Rey Navarro: 3-5, R, RBI, K
Dustin Ackley: 2-4, R, RBI
John Lamb: 7 IP, 4 H, ER, 5 K, HR - in August (5 GS, 31 IP): 2.32 ERA, .291 BAA, 1.32 WHIP, 7 BB, 17 K
Noe Ramirez: IP, H, BB, K

Mobile (62-69) lost 0-1 vs. Montgomery (74-58)
Brennon Lund: 1-4, K
Matt Thaiss: 0-4
Taylor Ward: 0-3, BB
Jose Rojas: 0-4 - in a 6-42 slump. hitting .143 last 10 games
Jesus Castillo (4th AA start): 5 IP, 4 H, ER, 2 BB, 4 K
Kevin Grendell: IP, H, 2 BB, 2 K
Tyler Warmoth: 2 IP, H, 3 K

Inland Empire (62-71) won 7-4 in 10 innings vs. Rancho Cucamonga (73-60)
Jahmai Jones: 0-5, 2 K
Michael Barash: 1-4, 2 R, HR (10), RBI, BB, K
Jake Yacinich: 2-5, 3B, 3 RBI, SB (12)
Jose Rodriguez: 6 IP, 9 H, 3 R, ER, BB, 7 K
Nathan Bates: 2 IP,  H, 4 K

Burlington (58-73) rained out vs. (60-70)

Orem (42-20) won 5-4 in 11 innings vs. Grand Junction (32-31)
Jo Adell: 2-6, R, 2 K
Brandon Marsh: 0-6, RBI, 4 K
Ryan Vega: 1-3, R, 2 BB
Torii Hunter: 2-4, R, K
Edrick Agosto: 5 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 4 BB, 7 K
Isaac Mattson: 2 IP, 2 H, ER, BB, 4 K - at Orem, 32 K in 22.1 IP, 1.21 ERA, .182 BAA, 1.03 WHIP
Daniel Procopio: 2 IP, BB, 3 K - at Orem, 18 IP, 23 K, 3.00 ERA, .172 BAA, 1.28 WHIP
James Ziemba: 2 IP, H, BB, 5 K -21 K in last 11.1 IP

AZL Angels (28-24) lost 1-2 in 10 innings vs. AZL Rangers (27-23)
Jacob Pearson: 0-3, 3 K - well goddamn
Nonie Williams: 0-4, 3 K
Jimmy Barnes: 0-4, R, 3 K
Johnny Morell: 4 IP, 2 H, 4 BB, K
Jerryell Rivera: 0.2 IP, H, BB, K

[Chuck]

Good news on Hermosillo and Lamb. 

Damn, N. Williams and Pearson are looking more like long term projects than anything else. The talent is there, but need to produce in games.

[John Smith]

2 Angels make Pipeline Team of the Week

http://m.angels.mlb.com/news/article/251051224/prospect-team-of-week-led-by-jo-adell/

[Chuck]

I'm pretty stoked that Adell will have a chance to compete in the playoffs for Orem, who has the best record in the Pioneer League.