Angels trade for Andrelton Simmons - Aybar, Newcomb, Ellis & $2.5mm to Braves $*#&

[Ohtaniland]

7 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The Braves took Aybar and he crashed and burned. Had Eppler not made that trade the Angels would still have needed a shortstop and Newcomb would still be trade bait but valued less and Ellis would be almost worthless. I think this was probably the best trade made by an Angels GM in multiple decades.

Well the breakup was just too much to take.

 

[Second Base]

But Andrelton is basically Eric Stamets!!!!

[Docwaukee]

2 minutes ago, Scotty@AW said:

But Andrelton is basically Eric Stamets!!!!

I know you know this, but others may not.  

Stamets drops an .800 ops on AA/AAA this year with 16hrs.  

he'd actually be a good util inf target.  

[Tyler]

On 11/12/2015 at 3:59 PM, Tyler said:

Outstanding. 

 

[Second Base]

2 hours ago, Dochalo said:

I know you know this, but others may not.  

Stamets drops an .800 ops on AA/AAA this year with 16hrs.  

he'd actually be a good util inf target.  

That pop came out of nowhere, but yeah, Stamets or Fletcher would both be fine.

[Jason]

A lot of this from the thread

[Warfarin]

I do have to say, it's kinda fun to bring up old threads to see how they have aged with time.  It does show you how, sometimes, we can somewhat overvalue our own prospects.  Not to say Newcomb isn't going to develop into a good starter, as he has already had a fairly promising start, but we sure did hit the jackpot with Simmons.

[Brandon]

2 hours ago, Warfarin said:

I do have to say, it's kinda fun to bring up old threads to see how they have aged with time.  It does show you how, sometimes, we can somewhat overvalue our own prospects.  Not to say Newcomb isn't going to develop into a good starter, as he has already had a fairly promising start, but we sure did hit the jackpot with Simmons.

sometimes?

[nate]

On 11/12/2015 at 5:37 PM, nate said:

Um, ok... weak hitting SS... yay!

 

Edit: omg Eppler got worked by the Braves first year GM John Coppolella

This didn't age well

[Taylor]

Newcomb had two good starts in 2017, so Eppler lost the trade.

[eligrba]

12 minutes ago, nate said:

This didn't age well

Sure....but I think I beat it with this gem......

On 11/12/2015 at 4:05 PM, eligrba said:

Dear God,

 

Please help this new GM figure shit out before he trades Trout for Uribe.

 

Thank you.

 

Eli Grba

Dumb ass....confirmed

[tdawg87]

On 11/12/2015 at 6:45 PM, tdawg87 said:

 

Lets not undermine how good Simmons is. The Angels got A LOT better defensively. Aybar is a good defensive shortstop. Simmons is the best in the game.

 

He's also marginally worse than Aybar with the bat, so its a wash.

 

But giving up Newcomb for him is absurd.

 

On 11/12/2015 at 7:03 PM, tdawg87 said:

I kind of expected Ellis to be gone if this trade were to happen, but Newcomb? How in the hell?

 

We also just went back to having the worst farm system in baseball by a wide margin.

 

I mean, I really like Simmons. He locks down the SS position for the next 5 years. But there is no reason to give up your top 2 prospects along with your shortstop who is already pretty damn good himself. Aybar, Ellis, and a relief prospect I can get. But this is absurd.

 

On 11/12/2015 at 9:21 PM, tdawg87 said:

So after some processing on this:

 

The Angels gave up too much. Don't care if Simmons plays like a stud here and Newcomb and Ellis both flame out. Both guys could have been used as the center piece of packages that could have filled other, more glaring holes. Aybar, even in his age, was also a fairly valuable commodity and I honestly don't see how the Angels had to give up BOTH of their top prospects AND throw in money for good measure. To me it seems like Eppler panicked. 

[Bronson]

8 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

 

 

Yeah you should feel ashamed. 
 

Boomer.

[Vlad27Trout27]

Billy needs to make another one of thse trade soon! this time for an Ace or atleast a solid 2/3!.

 

 

 

on a side note thos brought some memories.

[Docwaukee]

we've wasted Simmons prime years.  

[Jason]

3 hours ago, nate said:

This didn't age well

You just did a @Louon yourself 

[tdawg87]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

You just did a @Louon yourself 

That's fucking disgusting.

[Dick B Back]

On 11/12/2015 at 4:09 PM, Chuckster70 said:

Bring back Dipoto. 

 

Booo! 

Just had to Lou @Chuckster70 on this one.

[DMVol]

17 hours ago, Dochalo said:

we've wasted Simmons prime years.  

Yep...it was a good trade and I was dead wrong about it at the time....but we haven't taken advantage of it, unfortunately....at least not yet...

[wopphil]

On 11/12/2015 at 7:50 PM, wopphil said:

We gave up one year of Aybar, one prospect in the top 25, and another on the fringe of the top 100, for five years of one of the better shortstops in the game at a reasonable contract. A guy who a couple years ago was worth 7.0 WAR.

Whether you like the trade or not, I struggle to see how we over-paid.

I agree.

[Jason]

@Taylortype bump for this one

[failos]

On 1/13/2020 at 7:50 AM, Dick B Back said:

Just had to Lou @Chuckster70 on this one.

Are u alive

[Second Base]

Ok, now that I've had seven years to digest this trade, I think I'm starting to like it. We'll see. 

[ScottT]

This is probably the most hilarious trade ever. For me.

I was into Newcomb.  Saw him start 4 or 5 games with the 66ers.   Wasn't really upset about the trade, though.

Chavez has always baffled me.  I've run into people that know him.,.. or was that Nolasco.... probably both.   It's mind boggling that he's still around.   

Wild

[Jason]

As fans I think it’s natural to overreact to trades and feel fleeced when top rated prospects get traded. Just a couple of years ago it was Adell who was untouchable and so far he doesn’t appear to be that “untouchable” guy. I think these things teach us that prospects tend to be overvalued and we shouldn’t be so reluctant to trade them if we can win now by doing so.