Angels trade for Andrelton Simmons - Aybar, Newcomb, Ellis & $2.5mm to Braves $*#&

[fan_since79]

Jim Bowden, ESPN:

 

What the Angels received: Andrelton Simmons games best defensive shortstop and best overall defensive player. Only 26-years old with attitude and pop and bat will improve working with Mike Trout and Albert Pujols on a nightly basis.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Jim Bowden, ESPN:

 

What the Angels received: Andrelton Simmons games best defensive shortstop and best overall defensive player. Only 26-years old with attitude and pop and bat will improve working with Mike Trout and Albert Pujols on a nightly basis.

 

I don't think Bowden realizes it's 2015.

 

I still think they gave up too much in Aybar, their top two prospects and cash for a younger albeit better defensive version of Aybar.  Newcomb may never develop into what scouts think he can but as our biggest trade chip it seems like you move him if it fills a need like 3B, LF or some other bat.  This move alone looks terrible but the off season is far from over.       

[Troll Daddy]

I wonder how Mike Trout feels about the trade? He's really the only opinion that matters.

[zenmaster]

I just read some thoughts on the Braves board and it's funny that both sides are outraged that they got the bad end of the deal. Early on in the thread many Braves fan said how'd they be pissed if they "only" got DeGrom or Harvey for Simmons... 

Edited November 13, 2015 by zenmaster

[beatlesrule]

http://atlallday.com/2015/10/17/andrelton-simmons-time-to-trade-star-shortstop/

 

Found that article.  He called it a month ago.  Had the team wrong though.

[bloodbrother]

Jim Bowden, ESPN:

 

What the Angels received: Andrelton Simmons games best defensive shortstop and best overall defensive player. Only 26-years old with attitude and pop and bat will improve working with Mike Trout and Albert Pujols on a nightly basis.

 

 

 

 

 

Gotta love players with attitude. And....was Bowden implying that Simmons would be hitting next to Trout and Pujols? He's a #9 hitter unless his bat improves. Doesn't get on base, doesn't run....

[ukyah]

Gotta love players with attitude. And....was Bowden implying that Simmons would be hitting next to Trout and Pujols? He's a #9 hitter unless his bat improves. Doesn't get on base, doesn't run....

 

 

no. he's saying that they're going to make him a better hitter, which is dumb.

[Adam]

My wife and I were signing escrow papers for our first house last night.  Couldn't be more excited about the future and then I check my phone and see this trade...  It was weird how much it bummed me out.  Ruined the whole evening.  What an overpayment! I hope I end up being wrong but unless Simmons starts to hit like Jeter I think we lost this one for sure.

 

Congrats on the house, dude!

[bloodbrother]

Very dumb but then again so is Bowden

[Mark68]

My wife and I were signing escrow papers for our first house last night.  Couldn't be more excited about the future and then I check my phone and see this trade...  It was weird how much it bummed me out.  Ruined the whole evening.  What an overpayment! I hope I end up being wrong but unless Simmons starts to hit like Jeter I think we lost this one for sure.

Hope the overpayment wasn't for the house.

[seenoevil]

Lmao

[seenoevil]

I want Jerry back

[fan_since79]

Albert can recite his Hall of Fame stats to give the kid some extra motivation.

[Mark68]

Albert can recite his Hall of Fame stats to give the kid some extra motivation.

When he gets back after the '17 ASB.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Yeah, they dumped a ton of money it. Their pool is amazing. Take a look over the wall the next time you walk by.

but do it really creepy Cals...like hide in a shrub when you do it..

[beatlesrule]

Doesn't Simmons also have good speed? I know he doesn't steal much but I think he's at least as fast as Aybar.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

And that is why Jim Bowden is on Roger Lodges show and not in a Major League Front Office......

 

I like the Aybar for Simmons part. I then understand why you add in Newcomb (who becomes their #1 prospect is saying quite a bit) as Ayabr is a FA next year.... But, then to add in another lefty prospect and flip them 3M like its nothing even though they will probably flip Aybar for other younger parts and will end up never paying a penny of his salary is just amazingly ridiculous to me.

 

 

BTW, Lodge had his knee pads working overtime yesterday.

 

I get we are lefty top heavy. I was just expecting a better offensive player at a position of need if we were to trade Newcomb.

Edited November 13, 2015 by SlappyUtilityGuy

[Tank]

nervously waiting to hear that we've traded trout for two guys who can each hit 17 homers, drive in 50 runs, and steal 6 bases.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

Don't even joke about that Tank! It's called the Buzzie effect~

[Tank]

Don't even joke about that Tank! It's called the Buzzie effect~

 

let's hope that eppler improves enough in his future trades that any further comparisons are unnecessary and unwarranted.

[ettin]

Doesn't Simmons also have good speed? I know he doesn't steal much but I think he's at least as fast as Aybar.

His SB% isn't that great so I don't think you should expect to see him trying to steal that much. I'm sure his base running is good but not his SB success rate.

[aznhockeyguy]

I just remembered something, Aybar was basically terrible the last few games of the season with routine grounders and making errors left and right.  Did Mike wanted him gone?

[HaloFan85]

Aybar was worth -3.0 DRS last year. Not exactly plus defesively. For reference, Simmons was worth 25.0, more than three times the entire Angels team. 

I don't trust defensive metrics very much.  Trout was -9.0 DRS in each of the 2013 and 2014 seasons.  Do you honestly believe Trout was that bad or NOT a plus defender those years?

[Pujols4MVP]

and he does have some pop. 17 bombs and 27 doubles a couple seasons ago. 

 

.299/.352/.397 career hitter in the minors. 

 

Impressive ! and those numbers come from playing in a ballpark and a NL East division that limit HRs except Philly cheese box of course.

[Pujols4MVP]

Lets also remember that Simmons was playing for a team with ZERO HOPE of making the playoffs.

 

 

With alot of road games at HOU & TEX I expect his HR numbers climb up a little.

Also isn't Anaheim more hitter friendly compared to Atlanta ?

Edited November 13, 2015 by MikeScioscia4MVP