Andrew Heaney to Angels for Howie Kendrick

[Blarg]

Why not pursue Headley and then flip Freese for a useful piece. Headley would vastly improve the defense and offer a left-handed bat. Freese might net us back a decent left-handed DH type.

 

Headley had one good year and people still think he is an .800+ OPS player. He is not an improvement worth the money required to get him. I would much rather Dipoto held some payroll money in reserve for a mid season acquisition.

[stormngt]

Diaz didn't mean a damn thing to us, and he's only a reliever. We'll survive.

 

Featherston is a MIF. Young with plenty of upside. Try this:

 

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Taylor+Featherston+

Doesn't he have to stay on the 25 man roster?

[stormngt]

Who is on your radar?

to be honest, I have no idea.  However, 18 million gives a lot of wiggle room.

 

I like the idea of pursuing Mancado now.

[wopphil]

And if we can't improve the offense, we should focus on run suppression. Headley and Max Scherzer would help in that regard. If the team could move Freese and Wilson (even eating a fair amount of his salary), they could make that happen while remaining within the tax boundaries.

Edited December 11, 2014 by wopphil

[laagamer]

Doesn't he have to stay on the 25 man roster?

 

If he makes the team, yes. 

[Mark68]

storm, my understanding is whatever we pay a guy like Moncada doesn't go against the cap. So yes Arte isn't paying $18 million for his big league club, but I don't think it has any affect on signing an international player.

Also, since going wayyyyy over on Baldoquin means that we won't be able to sign international free agents for a couple of years, as long as Moncada is made available by the appropriate date (I think it's May 15), we need to go all in on him.

[Angel Oracle]

Headley had one good year and people still think he is an .800+ OPS player. He is not an improvement worth the money required to get him. I would much rather Dipoto held some payroll money in reserve for a mid season acquisition.

Agreed, no more Chase Chase.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Why not pursue Headley and then flip Freese for a useful piece. Headley would vastly improve the defense and offer a left-handed bat. Freese might net us back a decent left-handed DH type.

 

An article I saw yesterday said Headley's biggest suitors (Yankees) were turned off by his recent demands.  If the Yankees think someone is asking for too much that's a giant red flag.  Headley wants a multi-year contract and quite frankly aside from his one monster year has been pretty average or below average.  No thanks.

Edited December 11, 2014 by Catwhoshatinthehat

[wopphil]

You guys are not appreciating (1) Headley's defensive value, or (2) the fact that offense has been reduced so severely that a .700 OPS from a premium position is quite good (when combined with excellent defense).

[wopphil]

An article I saw yesterday said Headley's biggest suitors (Yankees) were turned off by his recent demands. If the Yankees think someone is asking for too much that's a giant red flag. Headley wants a multi-year contract and quite frankly aside from his one monster season has under performed for the most part. No thanks.

Good points, for sure. But I'd take him on a 4/44 deal, and I bet he ends up getting not too much more than that.

[Mark68]

What is with everyone's fascination with a third baseman who had one good year amongst some pretty mediocre ones?

 

Essentially, Headley is Freese with defense, and he'll be paid more money. No thanks.

[wopphil]

Headley has been a 4+ WAR player the last four years, and plays a position for which we have no minor league replacement. Yes, Freese would be adequate for 2015, but Headley will probably be better overall and would be a good long-term solution as well.

[stormngt]

Also, since going wayyyyy over on Baldoquin means that we won't be able to sign international free agents for a couple of years, as long as Moncada is made available by the appropriate date (I think it's May 15), we need to go all in on him.

agreed!

[ukyah]

What is with everyone's fascination with a third baseman who had one good year amongst some pretty mediocre ones?

 

Essentially, Headley is Freese with defense, and he'll be paid more money. No thanks.

 

 

since we're talking headley keep in mind he's spent his career in petco. the most brutal place to hit in baseball. he came alive once he got out of that park. for the right dollars he's worth it, but if someone gives him a crazy contract then you just let him go. i think the 4/44 would be perfectly reasonable in today's mlb dollars.

[howie]

wasn't sure which thread to post this link, but I found a cool article about a game last year with Heaney pitching against Tropeano-  they both did pretty well.  

 

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140523&content_id=76467280&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb&sid=milb

Edited December 11, 2014 by howie

[Glen]

since we're talking headley keep in mind he's spent his career in petco. the most brutal place to hit in baseball. he came alive once he got out of that park. for the right dollars he's worth it, but if someone gives him a crazy contract then you just let him go. i think the 4/44 would be perfectly reasonable in today's mlb dollars.

 

 

Look at his stats once he was traded to NY: .262, .371, .398, .768.  Love that OBP.  I think 4/44 would be the max but he's probably gonna get closer to $50 million.  That said, what's $6 million at that rate?

[mrpbjnance]

OK  Am I missing something..Why am I not seeing Weavers name mentioned in any of these rotations?

[WallyWorld]

To not be ecstatic about this trade is to be completely short-sighted. It's arguable whether they got better or worse for 2015, but they almost certainly put themselves in a better position for the next few years.

[mrpbjnance]

Its not that I am not happy about the trade..just wondering if weaver got traded and I missed it!  No one lists him in all the rotations I have seen listed in this thread

[Richard]

OK  Am I missing something..Why am I not seeing Weavers name mentioned in any of these rotations?

 

Future rotations I'm assuming.

[tdawg87]

Its not that I am not happy about the trade..just wondering if weaver got traded and I missed it! No one lists him in all the rotations I have seen listed in this thread

He wasn't traded. What rotations are you talking about?

It's possible people are referring to future rotations with all the young pitching talent the Angels have.

[Butcher'd]

Its not that I am not happy about the trade..just wondering if weaver got traded and I missed it!  No one lists him in all the rotations I have seen listed in this thread

 

He hasn't been traded. Youve probably been reading peoples future rotations

 

A lot of people are stoked about a possible rotation of Richards, Heaney, Shoemaker, Skaggs, Newcombe in 2017...and rightfully so. Dipoto has done a fantastic job with the pitching the last 2 years. Also depth pitchers like Tropeano, Deloach, and Rucinski are options. Angels have all of a sudden turned SP depth into a strength

Edited December 11, 2014 by Butcher'd

[Chimi]

Weaver has two more years on his contract. Most people are talking about rotations of the future. Weaver isn't going to be a part of those.

[tdawg87]

I'd still love it if they replaced Wilson, but as it stands the rotation is pretty good. They're now 7 legit starters deep, with guys like Deloach and Rucinski bringing it up the rear (giggles).

[Turd Ferguson]

I'd still love it if they replaced Wilson, but as it stands the rotation is pretty good. They're now 7 legit starters deep, with guys like Deloach and Rucinski bringing it up the rear (giggles).

 

It's in the ESPN rumors (grain of salt) but they suggested flipping CJ to Miami for Haren.  The thought process is that Haren has said he will retire if he doesn't play in LA, so it is better for Miami to get something for him.  From the Angels perspective, it would clear a ton of $ off the books and they might be able to make a run at one of these FA P.  Now, I'm not sure Miami is keen on taking on all that salary, but it seems like they are trying to field a competitive team, so who knows.

Edited December 11, 2014 by Turd Ferguson