Andrew Heaney to Angels for Howie Kendrick

[Jeff Fletcher]

Howie has been on the block for some time now.

This whole thing is really an issue of semantics.

What does "on the block" mean? Does it mean actively calling other teams and saying "do you want this guy?" Or does it mean "we will listen to offers for this guy"?

It's not the former, but it's definitely the latter.

If the Angels just wanted to unload Kendrick because they had a better young player or needed to cut the salary, they would have traded him a long time ago.

But when a team calls and offers you 6 years of a starting pitcher who has a chance to be a no 2 in exchange for one year of Kendrick, you have to do it.

I am pretty sure Dipoto wasnt saying "whew we unloaded Howie!" But "well this is too good to pass up. We have to bite the short term bullet and move Howie."

[Brandon]

I still stand by it being something presented to Dipoto. At the same time, the dip and loss of value isn't that great at second base to where this really becomes a no brainer.

 

Honestly, I'm still shocked at what they got for Howie. Howie is solid, but 31 and one year left for an orgs top prospect is pretty nuts.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Anyone think its weird the dogs wouldnt part with zach lee, but would heaney?

[HeavenlyHalos]

Different GM.

[Brandon]

I thought we said no to Lee, I'm guessing I'm wrong. I don't remember.

[Ohtaniland]

Heaney is young and has great stuff but he definitely gives up some launch pad type home runs.

[Brandon]

Based on what?

[ten ocho recon scout]

Different GM.

same GM. Friedman is the president

[Tyler]

And Zaidi is the GM.

[Redondo]

But when a team calls and offers you 6 years of a starting pitcher who has a chance to be a no 2 in exchange for one year of Kendrick, you have to do it.

I am pretty sure Dipoto wasnt saying "whew we unloaded Howie!" But "well this is too good to pass up. We have to bite the short term bullet and move Howie."

 

Agree. That is probably how it went down.

[NrM]

I still stand by it being something presented to Dipoto. At the same time, the dip and loss of value isn't that great at second base to where this really becomes a no brainer.

 

Honestly, I'm still shocked at what they got for Howie. Howie is solid, but 31 and one year left for an orgs top prospect is pretty nuts.

 

I think it also made sense for the dodgers, though.

They already have a lot of SP depth and have been focusing on improving their defense all offseason.

 

Just by trading Kemp and letting Hanley walk they improved their defense tremendously. 

Kendrick is one of the best out there.

Jimmy Rollins is still solid defensively.

 

Their pitching was very good last year, but I think it will be even better now that they have a competent to above average defense.

I don't like the dodgers, but I love what Andrew Friedman is doing.

 

The Marlins are the ones who royally ****ed up. Gordon just isn't any good.

Edited December 14, 2014 by Poozy

[halobob]

Not sure if this was posted yet, but this dude is awesome on twitter.

https://twitter.com/Heandog8/status/543535670623764480

yeah, this one was my favorite:

https://twitter.com/Heandog8/status/542917138634506240

[ten ocho recon scout]

Yeah, the marlins agreeing to that makes zero sense to me

[Lou]

Poozy,  if the dogs have so much SP depth,  why are they still looking for another SP? 

[ten ocho recon scout]

The dodgers have a great feont end ataff, but the back end is pretty mediocre. And lee doesnt look like hes progressing as much as they hoped (to this point).

I wonder if theyre trying to cut aome payroll knowing that grienke is going to opt out?

[Second Base]

Next up....

 

C.J. Wilson and Grant Green for Mookie Betts, who then becomes our starting 2B and leadoff hitter. 

 

Even with the trade for Wade Miley, the Red Sox have some SP holes to fill. Betts has a crowded OF and INF to crack in Boston.

 

Just read this one, but there's no way the Sox give up Betts for 2 years of Wilson and Grant Green.  

 

But I think a Betts for Newcomb and McGowin could work, or Wilson (plus 20 million), Yarbrough and Gatto.  

[NrM]

Poozy,  if the dogs have so much SP depth,  why are they still looking for another SP? 

 

I stand corrected. Not much SP depth. Just a very good 1-2-3.

[Troll Daddy]

I always wonder why a highly touted prospect is traded twice with in days.

Edited December 15, 2014 by Troll Daddy

[Stradling]

I always wonder why a highly touted prospect is traded twice with in days.

He was traded within minutes, so I wouldn't read into it.

The Dodgers wanted Howie and they acquired a player that could make that happen.

[Lou]

I stand corrected. Not much SP depth. Just a very good 1-2-3.

 

and Greinke can opt out after this season

[Jeff Fletcher]

I always wonder why a highly touted prospect is traded twice with in days.

He was really only traded once. it wasn't like the Dodgers got him and then got on the phone and offered him to the Angels. They talked to the Angels about him before they got him. It was essentially a three way trade.

[OregonLAA]

Ya, I was wondering why that wasn't just a 3 way trade. Was it because of the money going with Haren?

[sneaky_flute]

Some people are concerned about Heaney's mechanics, but it's still weird to trade a prospect of that caliber for ****ing Dee Gordon and one year of Kendrick, especially when you have highly touted MIF prospects waiting in the wings. 

[Blarg]

Waiting doesn't constitute ready.

[Mark68]

The dodgers have a great feont end ataff, but the back end is pretty mediocre. And lee doesnt look like hes progressing as much as they hoped (to this point).

I wonder if theyre trying to cut aome payroll knowing that grienke is going to opt out?

I hope you just fat-fingered this on your phone and you have autocorrect turned off...