Angels Trade Frieri for Grilli

[Hollyw00d]

Yeah I wouldn't think so.

[stormngt]

Don't be surprised that Friei bounces back and becomes a very good relief pitcher for the pirates. It was all confidence or lack there of. THEORY XanGo Of Scenery Will do him good.

Good trade. Change of scenery may help both teams. Frieri gave us a good run but it was definitely time for a change.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Jeff Fletcher ‏@JeffFletcherOCR 50s

#Angels Jerrry Dipoto said he doesn't believe he is done adding to the bullpen.

id be disappointed if it werent the case

[HaloFan85]

What scares me about Grilli is that 1.62 WHIP.

[ten ocho recon scout]

The padres still seem like the best match, IMO.

[Richard]

Don't be surprised that Friei bounces back and becomes a very good relief pitcher for the pirates. It was all confidence or lack there of. THEORY XanGo Of Scenery Will do him good.

 

 

Frieri's numbers have been much better when he's not closing games.

[T.G.]

I don't understand the whole "change of scenery" thing.  If your stuff sucks, what does changing uniforms do for you?

[bloodbrother]

 

Jeff Fletcher â€@JeffFletcherOCR  50s

#Angels Jerrry Dipoto said he doesn't believe he is done adding to the bullpen.

 

 

 

I didn't figure they would be. Wonder if anything else is close

[ten ocho recon scout]

I don't understand the whole "change of scenery" thing. If your stuff sucks, what does changing uniforms do for you?

look what dropping the disney unis did for us...

[Stradling]

Just because the results suck doesn't mean the stuff sucks, relief pitchers are very up and down.

[Jason]

I see it as the Angels just got rid of the worst player on the team. I'm ok with that. If Grilli sucks then what did they lose on the deal?

[Stradling]

I didn't figure they would be. Wonder if anything else is close

It wouldn't surprise me at all if we are working on bringing in another arm, and my guess is it will come from either the Padres or the D-Backs. I hope it will be guys like Borenstein and Navarro going the other way instead of Cron or Bedrosian.

[Turd Ferguson]

I don't see what they lose.  If Grilli sucks, they let him walk next year and save some money over what they would have had to pay Frieri.  And I think Grilli has a better chance of contributing positively this season then Frieri would have had.

[bloodbrother]

Just because the results suck doesn't mean the stuff sucks, relief pitchers are very up and down.

 

 

Yeah, his stuff is fine, the issue is he's walking way too many batters so far this year. Of course, that's why I'm not really excited over this deal, because this pen is filled with arms who can't throw strikes already

 

I just don't want Grilli being inserted into the closer's role and sadly that is what I think happens. The guy has been really struggling, and is now switching leagues again. I'd rather they have him pitch the 7th or whatever to see how he does first.

[Hollyw00d]

I see it as the Angels just got rid of the worst player on the team. I'm ok with that. If Grilli sucks then what did they lose on the deal?

Ya that's pretty much how I see it. M

Frieri was the worst player on the team, the numbers back that up

[T.G.]

I plan to judge Grilli solely on the music he has playing when he walks in from the bullpen.

[KevinStockerIsGod]

Here's why the trade is beneficial, for both sides...

 

For the Angels, they get a veteran pitcher who has closed for a playoff team and only on the payroll this season.  If he doesn't bounce back, then he's off the books next season and the Angels have an extra $4.25 mil.  If he does, maybe you bring him back for another season.  They lose a "cost controlled" guy, but are they gonna spend $4.5mil (or more depending on arbitration raise) on a guy they can't trust to hold a lead?  The cost control doesn't matter at this point if you option him or cut him loose.

 

For the Pirates and Frieri, he goes back to the NL in a division that's easier to play in and has a fresh start.  Frieri seems like a good guy and I wish him the best.  It was clear in his body language and results that this wasn't a blip in the radar this year for him and the Angels. 

[Glen]

Grilli is gonna close for us tonight.

[jshep]

I don't see what they lose. If Grilli sucks, they let him walk next year and save some money over what they would have had to pay Frieri. And I think Grilli has a better chance of contributing positively this season then Frieri would have had.

Well if either of them sucked they would be off the book after this year.

Of course on the flip side of that:

If Grilli bounces back, he's still gone in a few months.

If Frieri bounces back, there's still team control left.

[tennischmp]

I see it as the Angels just got rid of the worst player on the team. I'm ok with that. If Grilli sucks then what did they lose on the deal?

Scioscia making and leaving him as the closer even if he does suck?

[KevinStockerIsGod]

Alden Gonzalez ‏@Alden_Gonzalez 44s

Big takeaway: #Angels not done. They're going to try to get a LH, may even get another potential closer. Just a swap they felt made sense.

[T.G.]

[Jason]

Yeah, his stuff is fine, the issue is he's walking way too many batters so far this year. Of course, that's why I'm not really excited over this deal, because this pen is filled with arms who can't throw strikes already

 

I just don't want Grilli being inserted into the closer's role and sadly that is what I think happens. The guy has been really struggling, and is now switching leagues again. I'd rather they have him pitch the 7th or whatever to see how he does first.

I agree and I bet he doesn't close a game until he shows he has the stuff. Smith will remain the closer at this time.

[Angels]

This trade makes no sense and looks really bad on the surface.

[AngelsFaninGA]

My concern is that this gives Scioscia an excuse to pencil a garbage pitcher back into the closer role, but under a different name so it buys him time.