Orange County Register: Angels are aiming to turn data into W's

[AngelsWin.com]

ANAHEIM – To illustrate just where baseball has come in 2014, look no further than the job titles of two men with newly created positions in the Angels clubhouse.Rick Eckstein, major league player information coach.Nick Francona, coordinator of...

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[Tyler]

In the past, the Angels’ front office generated advance scouting material that would be delivered to the clubhouse, left up to the coaching staff to interpret and relay to the players.

“Now we have two people (in the clubhouse) whose job is to make sure this information is accurate and digested and that everyone is connected to it,” Dipoto said.

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Ouch. Shows what little faith Dipoto has in Scioscia.

[Stradling]

Or he realized it's too much work for one person considering all the other things a manager has on his plate.

[Tyler]

'coaching staff'

[bloodbrother]

If only all that data could turn their crappy pitchers into good ones

"Other players, such as Howie Kendrick, say they don’t want to be burdened with too much data, and that’s OK with Dipoto and Scioscia"

Guess that means we can look forward to Howie still flailing away at off speed pitches in the dirt with RISP

Edited April 4, 2014 by bloodbrother

[Taylor]

Data is the piece!

[Tyler]

If only all that data could turn their crappy pitchers into good ones

"Other players, such as Howie Kendrick, say they don’t want to be burdened with too much data, and that’s OK with Dipoto and Scioscia"

Guess that means we can look forward to Howie still flailing away at off speed pitches in the dirt with RISP

 

Yup, in the end, it all comes down to player personnel and makeup. It's safe to say that there is still alot more work to be done in that area, and that's all on Dipoto.

[AngelsLakersFan]

Only 10 years behind the rest of MLB...

[mp170.6]

"Other players, such as Howie Kendrick, say they don’t want to be burdened with too much data, and that’s OK with Dipoto and Scioscia"

 

Burdened?  How exactly?

[tomsred]

Burdened?  How exactly?

According to the Times article on the same subject, some players want to have the ability to react instinctually to plays in the field if they see that a situation warrants it.  That's kind of like trusting your dog to react to the mailman as an intruder, or a close friend.

Edited April 4, 2014 by tomsred

[SoWhat]

"Other players, such as Howie Kendrick, say they don’t want to be burdened with too much data, and that’s OK with Dipoto and Scioscia"

Burdened? Lol what a joke

[YouthofToday]

It is good not to overthink things. Not everybody is a data hound like Barry Bonds, Joey Votto, Brandon McCarthy and others.

[EDinTUSTIN]

If only all that data could turn their crappy pitchers into good ones

"Other players, such as Howie Kendrick, say they don’t want to be burdened with too much data, and that’s OK with Dipoto and Scioscia"

Guess that means we can look forward to Howie still flailing away at off speed pitches in the dirt with RISP

Lol, you beat me to it. All the data in the world doesn't make poor pitchers throw quality strikes or improve poor plate approaches. While all this is good, all the data gathering in the world is not going to help if players don't execute.

Edited April 4, 2014 by EDinTUSTIN

[YouthofToday]

If this helps to preach to positional players and pitchers -- at all levels of the organization -- of the utmost importance of are discipline I possibly cannot see how this is a bad thing.

Kudos to the manager and front office for facilitating this.

[CaliAngel]

 

In the past, the Angels’ front office generated advance scouting material that would be delivered to the clubhouse, left up to the coaching staff to interpret and relay to the players.

“Now we have two people (in the clubhouse) whose job is to make sure this information is accurate and digested and that everyone is connected to it,” Dipoto said.

 

Why the hell has it taken so long to assign these types of jobs to people?

 

We're paying players millions of dollars, but the organization has waited to  pay a couple guys $100,000/yr (maybe) to look at every piece of data and video we collect, and to have them cut out the most valuable pieces that could be important to the staff, coaches and players of the club? This sounds like a no brainier that the club should already have.

 

And the team should use this data throughout the season to their advantage to fix problems that arise, to scout competition, or fix problematic habits that seem to be hurting the team or players performance. Sure too much data can be overwhelming, but the players and coaches shouldn't dealing with ALL the information, just the guys who are paid to make sure it's all looked over.

[FabulousFabregas]

I can do his job for him.

 

Hey bullpen, according to statistics, YOU SUCK!

 

Now give me my paycheck.

[nando714]

Weren't the A's doing this 10+yrs ago?

Lol

[Brandon]

How many World Series has that got Oakland in 10+ years?

[fan_since79]

Or he realized it's too much work for one person considering all the other things a manager has on his plate.

 

plate...lasagna...

[nate]

How many World Series has that got Oakland in 10+ years?

 

What does that have to do with it?

[Adam]

Pretty effective so far. 

[Lhalo]

Burdened?  How exactly?

 

I can't wait until my boss gives me last month's sales statistics. I'll throw them back on his desk and tell him I can't be burdened with all those numbers.

[Stradling]

plate...lasagna...

Nothing, and I mean nothing on this board is as old as Scioscia is fat or Scioscia and Italian food comments. I would call them jokes, but, well, jokes are kind of humorous.

[Fontana Halo]

How many World Series has that got Oakland in 10+ years?

If Oakland had the Angels' budget, they would be the BEST franchise in baseball.

[Adam]

Hey uh, Jeppy. How's it going? Listen, I ran some data through my ipad app. Apparently, opponents really like it when you pitch. I'm thinking, try to pitch less in the future. Go get 'em.