Angels have scouted Tanaka multiple times

[ten ocho recon scout]

It makes it sting more that it was after we failed on grienke/signed hamilton

[Troll Daddy]

if THAT is what prevents Arte from locking up Trout....

Locking up Trout saves the team money.

[YouthofToday]

Who said anything about a discount?

If we weren't going to get a discount, and if he was going to take the biggest contract nobody what, how does whether we resigned him or not impact the merits of the trade for him?

[VariousCrap]

If we weren't going to get a discount, and if he was going to take the biggest contract nobody what, how does whether we resigned him or not impact the merits of the trade for him?

 

 

I didn't say that.  I said that I think Jerry wanted to resign him.  That was his main goal last offseason until Arte pulled the plug.

[YouthofToday]

I have a strong feeling, without any evidence what so ever, that the Angels are bluffing to ensure the Dodgers boost their bid to more than $80 million for the posting fee.

[NrM]

I have a strong feeling, without any evidence what so ever, that the Angels are bluffing to ensure the Dodgers boost their bid to more than $80 million for the posting fee.

 

Arte should be able to compete with anyone when it comes to the posting fee.

If he's as rich as I'm led to believe at least.

Edited November 8, 2013 by Poozy

[tdawg87]

I doubt Arte cares what another team pays for the posting fee. It's not like $80 million is a lot of money to the Dodgers.

If anything he would rather the Dodgers bid LESS so they don't get him.

[Ohtaniland]

Tanaka.......... "We love you long time"

[Richard]

And the Yankees have now made Tanaka their top priority:

 

http://t.co/IRKKR9TkLJ

[Troll Daddy]

Arte should be able to compete with anyone when it comes to the posting fee.

If he's as rich as I'm led to believe at least.

 

Should he reach into his own pocket or yours?

[YouthofToday]

I would not be surprised if the posting fee reaches close to $100 million

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

The Yankees will make all of their money back and more on Tanaka through sales. I expect their bid to be absurd.

[bloodbrother]

Yep. Didn't like the Halos chances of getting him anyway

 

trades and dumpster diving for SP for this team

[Scott34]

Yankees playing scare tactics.  Stay in it, Jerry.

[bloodbrother]

I figure they'll at least make a bid on the guy, but the Yankees need some arms badly themselves. I could see them doing whatever they can to get this guy

[Jim]

We will bid something short of the expected bid so that we can say we tried. Ahh shucks

[Tyler]

There are teams out there more desperate than the Angels right now. We won't get Tanaka. 

[Docwaukee]

There are teams out there more desperate than the Angels right now. We won't get Tanaka. 

that in combination with a bunch of those teams likely having even more financial flexibility than the halos

 

our only hope is that this is the player that Arte has his sights fixed upon. 

[Ohtaniland]

As for Tanaka's stuff, here's the take of Ben Badler of Baseball America:

At 6-foot-2, 205 pounds, Tanaka throws a low-90s fastball that can touch 96 mph. Even though Tanaka can reach the mid-90s, his fastball is the pitch that gives some scouts pause because it comes in on a flat plane, making it more hittable than the velocity might suggest. Tanaka has two secondary pitches that have earned grades of 60 or better on the 20-80 scouting scale, including a 70 splitter with late downward action to keep hitters off his fastball. His low- to mid-80s slider is another plus weapon, while he’ll mix in a curveball as well.

It's discouraging that Tanaka's fastball is flat. Phil Hughes has a flat fastball. Joe Blanton has a flat fastball. Tim Lincecum's fastball has become pretty flat. They're examples of how flat fastballs are bad.

 

[Stradling]

That may all be true but, foreign presence.

[Docwaukee]

I know scouting is important, but the guy has been fully dominant against some pretty solid talent in NPB.  The question becomes what will happen when that fastball gets hammered a few times.  Will he become a nibbler or just pitch off of his plus plus secondary stuff and still be effective.  It does make me think that his transition of going to be a bit bumpy the first couple of years where he functions more as a #4 as he cuts his teeth. 

[Troll Daddy]

Rangers got a hellava deal signing Yu Darvish. I  think Tanaka will be a #2 or #3  type starter which is not bad. I still believe that a trade should be our first target or Vargas second choice.

 

Let the Yankees and Dodgers fight it out for Tanaka.

Edited November 10, 2013 by Troll Daddy

[Scott34]

Mariano had a flat 4-seamer.

[Ohtaniland]

Rangers got a hellava deal signing Yu Darvish. I  think Tanaka will be a #2 or #3  type starter which is not bad. I still believe that a trade should be our first target or Vargas second choice.

 

Let the Yankees and Dodgers fight it out for Tanaka.

 

And the Red Sox and Cubs

[Second Base]

I think Scott might be right.  The Yanks have spending power and need pitching so they'll really play up their hand to try and get one of their competitors to overpay on him.  I think the team that ends up landing Tanaka will be the one looking to take that step from solid or good team to elite team the way the Rangers did with Darvish.

 

Orioles, Angels, Indians, Nats, Reds and Dodgers rather than guys like the Yanks, Phils, Red Sox and Cubs.  

 

Obviously the Dodgers are the faves because they've shown a willingness to spend, but I can definitely see the Reds coming in and winning it.