Breaking: Eppard and Picciolo let go - Scioscia and Dipoto staying

[Lifetime]

This is the way I feel about it. It just seems a little strange.

 

Having 2 pitching coaches is odd to me as well.

Why are the pitching issues on this team a reflection of the coach? This isn't a good staff no matter who's coaching them. 

[jshep]

I look forward to going to the games and getting great seats since all of you are now no longer going to the games. Tickets should come real cheap.

 

This is going to be the origin story for the superfan equivalent of the Justice League, isn't it?

[Ohtaniland]

All this bullsh*t to avoid interviewing a black manager. 

 

Torii and Vernon say hello.

[mrwicked]

lol@this org.

failure has clearly become acceptable.

[xboom28x]

Ebel being moved to bench coach is interesting from the standpoint that he has a lot of minor league managing experience. This tells me, and I am not saying this is the case, but it appears that Ebel is in position to take over as interim manager if this team gets off to another pisspoor start next season.

 

I really hope this means MS is on a very short leash.

Edited October 9, 2013 by xboom28x

[wopphil]

Arte sounds like a wonderful boss. Totally unwilling to look in the mirror. He should be happy Scioscia and Dipoto are willing to keep working for him.

[James]

lol@this org.

failure has clearly become acceptable.

That is not clearly obvious just like it wasnt clearly obvious that Sosh needed to be fired no matter what many fans say. 

[James]

Arte sounds like a wonderful boss. Totally unwilling to look in the mirror. He should be happy Scioscia and Dipoto are willing to keep working for him.

Yet one of the few quotes from him is that he needed to look in the mirror.....

[James]

Ebel being moved to bench coach is interesting from the standpoint that he has a lot of minor league managing experience. This tells me, and I am not saying this is the case, but it appears that Ebel is in position to take over as interim manager if this team gets off to another pisspoor start next season.

 

I really hope this means MS is on a very short leash.

I really hope we never learn how long or short the leash is next season

[mtangelsfan]

2012 Big splash

2013 Big splash

2014 Big crash

 

Well, since the first two big splashes didn't work out, maybe the big crash will.  Hope springs eternal.

[jshep]

Yet one of the few quotes from him is that he needed to look in the mirror.....

 

Of course talk is cheap.

 

I sure hope Arte has done just that and learned his lesson, but I can't blame anyone for being skeptical about those sort of things at this point. There's a lot of benefit of the doubt that's been understandably lost by members of this organization for a lot of people.

Edited October 9, 2013 by jshep

[Ohtaniland]

Well, since the first two big splashes didn't work out, maybe the big crash will.  Hope springs eternal.

 

MT, I sure hope you're right.

[James]

Of course talk is cheap.

 

I sure hope Arte has done just that and learned his lesson, but I can't blame anyone for being skeptical about those sort of things at this point. There's a lot of benefit of the doubt that's been understandably lost by members of this organization for a lot of people.

Yet people believe other things around here that have no factual backing, got it. 

 

Look, people can get upset all they want but it wont matter who the manager is if they dont acquire quite a bit of pitching. 

[full circle]

That is not clearly obvious just like it wasnt clearly obvious that Sosh needed to be fired no matter what many fans say. 

Oh Ok, as long as you say so.  Lol

[James]

Oh Ok, as long as you say so.  Lol

So you believe that Arte has accepted losing?

[mtangelsfan]

I don't think whether he fired Sosh and Dipoto is a tell on whether Arte has looked in the mirror or not.  However, I would argue that if he fired Dipoto it would be a tell that he clearly hadn't.

[Lifetime]

I don't think whether he fired Sosh and Dipoto is a tell on whether Arte has looked in the mirror or not.  However, I would argue that if he fired Dipoto it would be a tell that he clearly hadn't.

Only if you buy into the Arte interfering with baseball operations and acquisitions I guess.  

[CaliAngel]

I just don't see how this helps the team at all.

 

When the pitching coach can't make the most of what he's got, and you see a decline in the performance of the arms once they get on this team, its clear Butcher was the one that needed to go.

 

I can deal with keeping Scoscia one more year, but Butcher being around to go and talk to the pitchers followed by giving up big hits and go-ahead runs is pretty much unbearable.

 

I don't know whats going on with this team anymore. Management/Ownership seems completely oblivious to reality.

[Lhalo]

Why are the pitching issues on this team a reflection of the coach? This isn't a good staff no matter who's coaching them. 

I meant hitting coaches. I have no idea why I said pitching coaches.

[full circle]

So you believe that Arte has accepted losing?

No, I believe Arte doesn't make wise baseball decisions.  

[JAHV76]

This just in AngelsWin signs site advertising deal with Head and Shoulders. An annonymous source indicated that "With Mike Butcher remaining the Angels pitching coach for 2014 many of our posters are scratching their heads."

[seenoevil]

bring back hatcher!

[full circle]

Only if you buy into the Arte interfering with baseball operations and acquisitions I guess.  

What was Arte referring to when he said he "needed to look in the mirror" then?  

[Scott34]

I don't understand why Picciolo and Eppard were fired.  Makes no sense.  ****ing backwards.

[James]

No, I believe Arte doesn't make wise baseball decisions.  

What you replied to was about the organization accepting failure which clearly has not been the case.