The thing I don't understand about Scioscia defenders

[WallyWorld]

have they not paid attention to the Boston Red Sox the past 3 years?  Is it not painfully apparent that a new manager can inspire a group of players to play at their maximum potential?

[Lhalo]

Are there still Scioscia defenders?

[Stradling]

They went from apologist to defenders. By the way, which one of the Scioscia Haters called Travis Rodgers this morning? They used the term Scioscia Apologist in their rant. I chuckled.

[WallyWorld]

I believe my man Bruce is still drinking the Scioscia Kool-Aid, and I believe there are others.  It confounds me.

[Kenny]

I'm not the type of person to call for management's head.

 

But I find myself shaking my head at some of his decisions.  Some he makes night in and night out.  And it's happened more and more this season than ever.

[WallyWorld]

I'm not the type of person to call for management's head.

 

But I find myself shaking my head at some of his decisions.  Some he makes night in and night out.  And it's happened more and more this season than ever.

 

to me it's not even about his in-game decisions, which have been questionable, but are at least arguable. It's about the team looking unprepared, uninspired, and sloppy for years now.

[Blarg]

Yeah, the Angels players are drinking beer and eating fried chicken during the games and Weaver during his DL stint was out playing golf every day.

 

What I don't understand about Scioscia haters is how far from reality their logic goes in making comparisons.

[Stradling]

I only defend him these days when the person isn't using logic when they are bashing him. For example, when someone wants him fired right now. My point would be, why now? Let him play out the string and handle it in the off season. The other time I defend him is when he is called out for being a boring interview, who really cares. Lastly I defend him when he is called out this season for his bullpen management. They all suck so what's the point.

[Blarg]

But, but, but... his lineup cards!

[WallyWorld]

Yeah, the Angels players are drinking beer and eating fried chicken during the games and Weaver during his DL stint was out playing golf every day.

 

 

wow . . . .just, wow.  Way to completely ignore the point.

[Blarg]

I think the point is you took the Red Sox failure completely out of context and put that cluster**** of a-hole players and an absentee manager and attached that to the Angels situation. But go ahead and hate away, all the cool kids are doing it.

[Lhalo]

A-hole players and an absentee manager eh? Doesn't seem like too far of a stretch to me.

[Stradling]

Name an A-Hole player?

[Brandon]

Are there still Scioscia defenders?

I think a lot of us don't care either way, and strangely even say so but the anti-Sosh crowd lumps us in with them.

I think Wally just misconstrues rational logic and empirical facts opposed to feelings and emotions....like the team is playing with no heart, like it is a gauged stat. For the most part these defenders seem to be the logic rebuttalists, which is probably pointless because like this thread some don't get the actual posts and arguments and clearly just want to group sides.

You even see clowns erroneously throw around Pollyanna if it doesn't fit with their pouting.

I also think a lot of people, while not pro-Sosh, at least can see no coach is going to correct our injuries or plethora of under performing players.

That and the fact the fire Sosh crowd doesn't even come up with viable solutions and seem to always just knee jerk pout here after every loss looking for a scapegoat.

[The God of Runs]

Name an A-Hole player?

Trout's kinda getting stuck up

[LightTheHalo]

If you could offer me a guarantee that by firing Scioscia the team as currently constructed would suddenly start playing significantly better and contend for the division title in 2014, I'd say "Thanks for the memories, Mike."

 

But since you can't do that, I'd just as soon keep him. He's an exceptional big league manager. He represents a stability in that role that this franchise had never experienced in the nearly 40 years that preceded his hiring. He's as even-keeled as you could ask of a manager, not visibly riding the highs and lows of a season. Most players, with the exception of a handful, seem to like playing for him.

[Chimi]

I don't think it's Scioscia's fault as much as people make it out to be. But I do understand there has to be a fall guy somewhere. When this team was successful, it was built completely different. They had solid pitching, solid bullpen, were aggressive but smart on the base paths, and played great defense. They manufactured runs by getting on base, moving runners, going first to third. They don't do that anymore. We have too many free swingers on this team. That's why I don't think Trumbo has a place on this team. He's a one dimensional player and that doesn't fit into what Mike Scioscia does. Remember back when everyone was raving over the Mike Scioscia style of baseball? Then the Angels started getting players who didn't fit that mold and crappy pitchers and look where they are now.

[Marsaka]

 

. Most players, with the exception of a handful, seem to like playing for him.

 

Really?  I've never heard a manager called out by former players as much as Mike Scioscia has been.  In fact I've never heard a manager called out by any player except Mike Scioscia and that says it all.

[Brandon]

Really? I've never heard a manager called out by former players as much as Mike Scioscia has been. In fact I've never heard a manager called out by any player except Mike Scioscia and that says it all.

link?

[mtangelsfan]

The thing about Sosh haters I don't get is why they feel the need for everyone to agree with them.

 

Who the hell needs message board comfirmation? 

[Troll Daddy]

I'm like MS as a manager and have no problem him coming back next season. I also have no problem with a new manager but that doesn't necessarily mean things will change. I could see the fans here calling for the new managers head within a couple seasons or sooner ... reference Jerry Dipoto.

 

No manager in baseball makes all the right moves ... much like a great hitter doesn't get a hit every at bat. It's gets troubling that fans here expect Arte to keeping eating contracts if things don't go the way they want.

 

My best guess, if Scioscia is relieved of duties ... they will hire a young inexpensive manager as his replacement and Scioscia moved into the front office. Cardinals is a good reference point amongst others.

[Brent Maguire]

Well said TD. I don't know what other alternative manager there is out there but I'm not sure Scioscia should be coming back next season. 

[m0nkey]

I don't care.

What I don't get is why people say francona shouldve been fired since "he lost the clubhouse" but say scioscia should stay since he won a title

[mtangelsfan]

What does one have to do with the other monkey?

[eaterfan]

have they not paid attention to the Boston Red Sox the past 3 years?  Is it not painfully apparent that a new manager can inspire a group of players to play at their maximum potential?

 

I'm sure the reason the Sox are doing better is because of the manager not because Pedroia came back and they have a very different team than last season. It's definitely not that they traded away a bunch of over paid past their prime veterans for good young players that represented a major upgrade in talent.