The Angels General Manager

[Inside Pitch]

He'll give Cano 7 years/$200M and everything will be better.

 

When Cano hits .210, it will be blamed on Arte.

[mtangelsfan]

And ours. 

 

COme on, be fair - Maddon manages one the teams that always performs the best for their payroll, and Black is stuck with the spendthrift Padres.  Only Roenicke has had any sort of decent payroll to work with and even his is pretty limited.

 

Be fair about what?  To argue that Sosh was only successful because of those guys is pure and unadulterated conjecture.  It's based on nothing more than the fact that most fans of their own team hate their managers.

 

I never said those guys were failures, just that they haven't proved anything close to the fact that they were the brains behind Sosh.  In fact, to a man, every one of those guys have spoken numerous times about how much they learned from Sosh.

 

But of course, they are lying and internet fan knows better.

[Inside Pitch]

Rays have a bunch of 4A players with a couple good pitchers mixed in.

 

Rays have had been good defensive teams that could pitch.   We stopped doing that a few years ago cause the fans were sick of the boring winning and wanted to see more exciting HRs....  

[mtangelsfan]

Rays have a bunch of 4A players with a couple good pitchers mixed in.

 

So if you were managing the last two seasons you would rather have had the Angels roster than the Rays?

[xboom28x]

Redsox, Yankees, Dodgers had the money and need and avoided him like the plague.  Rangers made him an offer but clearly they didnt want him back since he didnt even consider it.  

 

Yankees didn't have the money. They are trying to get under the luxury tax.

 

Dodgers didn't have the need. They had Ethier, Crawford and Kemp. Where was Hamilton going to play?

 

RedSox just got done dumping long term, big money contracts. So they weren't going to turn around a dole out another one.

 

I think I have proven my point.

[Bruce Nye]

The Nate Hate is getting tiresome.  Nate, do you think we forget you hate Sciosica?  Must it pervade all threads you post in? 

[mtangelsfan]

Yankees didn't have the money. They are trying to get under the luxury tax.

 

Dodgers didn't have the need. They had Ethier, Crawford and Kemp. Where was Hamilton going to play?

 

RedSox just got done dumping long term, big money contracts. So they weren't going to turn around a dole out another one.

 

I think I have proven my point.

 

We didn't have the need either.  We could have just resigned Hunter.

[Angel Oracle]

This is a meltdown from top to bottom, plain and simple. 

Dipoto has underachieved.    Scioscia and coaches have underachieved.   The players have underachieved. 

Reagins underachieved when he was GM.

[Lhalo]

We didn't have the need either.  We could have just resigned Hunter.

Man I wish that would have happened.

[xboom28x]

Be fair about what?  To argue that Sosh was only successful because of those guys is pure and unadulterated conjecture.  It's based on nothing more than the fact that most fans of their own team hate their managers.

 

I never said those guys were failures, just that they haven't proved anything close to the fact that they were the brains behind Sosh.  In fact, to a man, every one of those guys have spoken numerous times about how much they learned from Sosh.

 

But of course, they are lying and internet fan knows better.

 

Aren't you "internet fan?"

[fan_since79]

Aren't you "internet fan?"

I'm the only "fan" around here.

 

By the way, whatever happened to fansince82? I haven't seen him on the new board.

[xboom28x]

We didn't have the need either.  We could have just resigned Hunter.

 

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Ya, That would have solved all of the problems right there. Sign the 38 year old to 15M plus per year contract.

 

Again, at the time Detroit signed him, the majority applauded DiPoto for not signing the aging veteran.

[m0nkey]

We didn't have the need either. We could have just resigned Hunter.

They made hunter resign

[mtangelsfan]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Ya, That would have solved all of the problems right there. Sign the 38 year old to 15M plus per year contract.

 

Again, at the time Detroit signed him, the majority applauded DiPoto for not signing the aging veteran.

 

Can you not be a dick?

[markb]

Ya nothing is ever Dipoto's fault..

 

Part of being the GM is evaluating talent, and minimizing mistakes.   that's what we pay scouts for isnt it?

 

Dipoto should have known Burnett always had a history of nagging injuries, everyone else did....but he signed him anyways.  He should have known Hamilton hit like .150 after the month of may, instead he gave him 125m based on his entire year.

 

He should have known CJ was overrated, the players even polled it,but he signed him anyways.

 

He should have known to get a real closer after what happened in 2012, he didnt.........and the list goes on and on.

 

- Burnett threw 50+ innings each of the last 3 years.  

- Hamilton had a .943 OPS in Aug and .873 in Sept/Oct

- CJ has mostly lived up to expectations aside from his 2nd half last year when he apparently played through bone spurs.  He's our #2 guy after Weaver, which is what he was signed to be.

 

I don't believe Dipoto should be immune to criticism, but at least criticize things that are factually accurate.

[nate]

Be fair about what?  To argue that Sosh was only successful because of those guys is pure and unadulterated conjecture.  It's based on nothing more than the fact that most fans of their own team hate their managers.

 

I never said those guys were failures, just that they haven't proved anything close to the fact that they were the brains behind Sosh.  In fact, to a man, every one of those guys have spoken numerous times about how much they learned from Sosh.

 

But of course, they are lying and internet fan knows better.

 

Again, maybe their different voices and philosophies helped Scioscia.  Nobody said that they didn't learn a lot from him but maybe their advice was valuable?

[Marsaka]

Yankees didn't have the money. They are trying to get under the luxury tax.

 

Dodgers didn't have the need. They had Ethier, Crawford and Kemp. Where was Hamilton going to play?

 

RedSox just got done dumping long term, big money contracts. So they weren't going to turn around a dole out another one.

 

I think I have proven my point.

 

Yanks have more money than anyone, dodgers had crawford on the DL, redsox gave an insane contract to victorino instead.

 

Even so Dipoto coughing up 125m for an OF that nobody wanted further proves my point that dipoto is an idiot.

[nate]

The Nate Hate is getting tiresome.  Nate, do you think we forget you hate Sciosica?  Must it pervade all threads you post in? 

 

When people stop championing him for something he did long in the past.

[mtangelsfan]

Again, maybe their different voices and philosophies helped Scioscia.  Nobody said that they didn't learn a lot from him but maybe their advice was valuable?

 

I'm sure it was.  That was an all time staff.

[mtangelsfan]

When people stop championing him for something he did long in the past.

 

Who was doing that in this thread?

 

Oh, was it when you claimed his entire run was "stank"?

[nate]

I didn't say it was stank.  I said 13 years of his stank are on this org.

[nate]

Scioscia and Stoneman brought this org the most success it has ever seen.  There is no denying that.

 

Even the most successful leaders eventually regress.

[Inside Pitch]

Yankees didn't have the money. They are trying to get under the luxury tax.

 

Dodgers didn't have the need. They had Ethier, Crawford and Kemp. Where was Hamilton going to play?

 

RedSox just got done dumping long term, big money contracts. So they weren't going to turn around a dole out another one.

 

I think I have proven my point.

 

 

So we had zero competition and still paid 125 million?    

 

BRILLIANT....   

[Inside Pitch]

This is a meltdown from top to bottom, plain and simple. 

Dipoto has underachieved.    Scioscia and coaches have underachieved.   The players have underachieved. 

Reagins underachieved when he was GM.

 

 

Need to change the Stadium's name to Chico's Bail Bonds Stadium of Anaheim.

[yk9001]

Damn, this may be my most succesful thread ever in the main forum.

 

Never has a man whose done so little get so much support.

 

This was a pro-Scioscia thread masquerading as an anti-Dipo thread.