Time to make Shohei an Angel for life

[Angelsjunky]

I'm glad Jeff Boras isn't his agent, because he'd create a 100-page dissertation on why Ohtani should get a "double contract" because he's essentially two players.

[HeavenlyHalos]

7 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I'm glad Jeff Boras isn't his agent, because he'd create a 100-page dissertation on why Ohtani should get a "double contract" because he's essentially two players.

[T.G.]

8 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I'm glad Jeff Boras isn't his agent, because he'd create a 100-page dissertation on why Ohtani should get a "double contract" because he's essentially two players.

Or Scott Boras for that matter 

[tdawg87]

17 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I'm glad Jeff Boras isn't his agent, because he'd create a 100-page dissertation on why Ohtani should get a "double contract" because he's essentially two players.

Everyone shhhh don't tell him

[Angelsjunky]

OK, Scott, not Jeff. Got me.

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Angelsjunky said:

OK, Scott, not Jeff. Got me.

[Taylor]

On 6/23/2022 at 8:42 AM, Blarg said:

I'm sure two days of performance is exactly what the Angels need to use as the yardstick for Ohtani's worth. It has worked so well for them in the past.

Update?

[Chuck]

With an incredible June after a meh April and May for Ohtani standards, he's put himself in contention for another MVP race as we head toward summer. 

His competition this season isn't just Vladimir Guerrero Jr. as it was in 2021, but he's got Devers, Judge, Ramirez and his own teammate Mike Trout to contend with. The above is his fWAR from Fangraphs, here's his bWAR:

What Ohtani is doing on the mound and at the plate of late, if he keeps this up he's an unanimous AL MVP again despite the larger field of candidates having good seasons. 

[cals]

I’ve been on the road for the past week so I’ve missed a lot.  I’m just wondering if AO has called him “No, Hey, Mo Money” yet?

[Lou]

3 hours ago, cals said:

I’ve been on the road for the past week so I’ve missed a lot.  I’m just wondering if AO has called him “No, Hey, Mo Money” yet?

No 

[HanfordGuy]

[cals]

5 hours ago, Lou said:

No 

Excellent, thank you.

[Dtwncbad]

On 6/25/2022 at 11:54 AM, True Grich said:

Or Scott Boras for that matter 

Or Borat.

[Angel Oracle]

Currently, only 4 innings short of qualifying for AL ERA and WHIP titles

Tied for 8th in AL HRs and rbis.

Would be top 10 in AL ERA and top 5 in WHIP, if qualifying.

[Swordsman78]

Arte will absolutely sign Shohei to a long extension.   Remember that Arte's #1 objective is to sell beers. 

Butts in seats = Beer sales.

Not to mention that Ohtani also is 1 roster spot playing two positions.  This frees up a spot for an extra player.  

The Angels would need to get the other 7 starting AL all star team members to make the deal even Steven.

Very few teams can match Trout and Ohtani (DH), Ohtani (P) as the #1, #2, #3 guys.  The Angels just need to figure out the other 7 positions.   Someone is due to step up, a minor leaguer is due to emerge, a couple of those (20) drafted pitchers have to pay off.   Just don't panic.  We only need a light year on the injury front, and some luck to turn it around.

Also keep Nevin as manager.  He has an "edge" to him that the players will respond to.

[CanadianHalo]

Lol 

Just what this organization needs. Another massive contract on the books. 

This board deserves Arte as an owner. 

Hopefully Ohtani saves Arte from himself and gives the Angels a heads up that he’ll be leaving when his time comes. 

[tdawg87]

What is it about Canadians? 

[Jason]

29 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

What is it about Canadians? 

Not sure but their whiskey is inferior to ours 

[tdawg87]

Just now, Jason said:

Not sure but their whiskey is inferior to ours 

So is their beer.

[CaliAngel]

On 7/1/2022 at 10:52 PM, Swordsman78 said:

Arte will absolutely sign Shohei to a long extension.   Remember that Arte's #1 objective is to sell beers. 

Butts in seats = Beer sales.

Not to mention that Ohtani also is 1 roster spot playing two positions.  This frees up a spot for an extra player.  

The Angels would need to get the other 7 starting AL all star team members to make the deal even Steven.

Very few teams can match Trout and Ohtani (DH), Ohtani (P) as the #1, #2, #3 guys.  The Angels just need to figure out the other 7 positions.   Someone is due to step up, a minor leaguer is due to emerge, a couple of those (20) drafted pitchers have to pay off.   Just don't panic.  We only need a light year on the injury front, and some luck to turn it around.

Also keep Nevin as manager.  He has an "edge" to him that the players will respond to.

This post just cheered me the hell up. "Just don't panic" I dig the positive vibes.

Rooting for Nevin as manager sealed the deal. He's a wildcard, probably unqualified but shit let's try it, he's the kinda guy this team needs.

And you're absolutely correct, Arte will pay to keep Ohtani. Who are we kidding?

Angels just need to figure out the other 7 positions. It can't be that hard.

Not like it's never happened before.

I think it has?

[cals]

3 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

What is it about Canadians? 

They’re smart people.

[Taylor]

Obligatory every sixth day bump.

[Angels 1961]

On 6/25/2022 at 1:54 PM, True Grich said:

Or Scott Boras for that matter 

He can switch agents

[Docwaukee]

Shohei should be an Angel for life.  He brings revenue to the team at a greater rate for the Angels than Cole does for the Yankees or even Trout does for the halos.  He's the most marketable and valuable player in all of MLB.  If you made a mistake on Rendon, you don't sacrifice keeping Ohtani because of that.  

Every big contract is pretty much a bad decision.  Teams know this.  Fans know this.  It's not rocket science.  You tend to overpay for a certain amount of value.  But if you approach it as if someone who is getting paid 40m a year is going to translate that into 40m worth of actual baseball on the field value then you are stupid.  

You want to be a team that has 3 big dong contracts?  Fine.  But you still have to build the right team around that and if you can't, then don't go after those guys.  

There is the business of baseball and then there is actual baseball.  The two things need to be separated.  Should a 190m payroll be enough to win games?  Of course.  But if you expect 120m of that production to come from three guys on a daily then you are doing it wrong.  

So fine.  Great.  Let's play with the big dogs.  But the big dogs don't stop after their top three guys.  They pay very close attention to the other 23 guys on the roster.  They pay close attention to the wins provided from each player regardless of their salary.  

If I spend this much, I am entitled to get this.  Nope.  

[Lou]

5 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

Shohei should be an Angel for life.  He brings revenue to the team at a greater rate for the Angels than Cole does for the Yankees or even Trout does for the halos.  He's the most marketable and valuable player in all of MLB.  If you made a mistake on Rendon, you don't sacrifice keeping Ohtani because of that.  

 

And then he showed these men of will what will really was.