What does Ohtani have to do to be considered a viable MVP candidate?

[19HALO71]

Just throwing these numbers out there to start the conversation.

Hitting

.285 Avg

25 HR's

85 RBI's

Pitching

8+ wins

3.00 ERA or lower

100 k's

1.20 WHIP

 

[WicketMaiden]

17 minutes ago, 19HALO71 said:

Just throwing these numbers out there to start the conversation.

Pitching

8+ wins

 

 

Lol. Have you seen the Angels play this year?

[floplag]

Win
The team has to win games for either he or Trout to get that consideration going forward.
Either that or has has to pull a Baylor and it must be so obvious that no one else could be considered and put up video game numbers while no one esle gets close. 

[Jason]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I don't think either his pitching or offensive numbers, looked at by themselves, will warrant MVP consideration but if both are very good at season's end there may be a real chance. If he can put up very good numbers as a two way player then that will be hard to ignore since no other player else can even be in that conversation. 

[Taylor]

5 minutes ago, floplag said:

Win
The team has to win games for either he or Trout to get that consideration going forward.
Either that or has has to pull a Baylor and it must be so obvious that no one else could be considered and put up video game numbers while no one esle gets close. 

I agree. The Angels were incredibly successful as a team when Trout won his MVPs in 2016 and 2019.

[Taylor]

4 minutes ago, Toby Flenderson said:

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I don't think either his pitching or offensive numbers, looked at by themselves, will warrant MVP consideration but if both are very good at season's end there may be a real chance. If he can put up very good numbers as a two way player then that will be hard to ignore since no other player else can even be in that conversation. 

Would winning the MVP make Ohtani seem more exciting?

[T.G.]

Get the most votes.

[Tank]

being around the lead in homers and era wouldn't be something to ignore. he's also got stolen bases and k's.

honestly, if he just keeps doing what he's doing now, he'll be one of the top 5 candidates. i'm not sure that he has to reach certain numbers to be taken more seriously.

[Docwaukee]

pretty much what he's been doing.  

[Jay]

Yeah I think he's doing it.

[T.G.]

Who was player of the month for April?

[Brandon]

Speak English

[Jay]

2 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Speak English

couldn't hurt...

[UndertheHalo]

I’m having trouble here.  What else do you figure he might do ? Convince Arturo to spend more money on scouts and development infrastructure perhaps? 

[failos]

5 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Who was player of the month for April?

Albert Pujols’

 

 

 

 

 

replacement

[JustATroutFan]

Right now, Trout is like the leading AL MVP candidate. Yup, once again, he's on the list with a .342/.463/.649 slash line. He's due to heat up at the plate again at some point so I could see an OPS around 1.200 in a couple of weeks. Another great candidate is Cole. He's the only starting pitcher on the Yankees that everyone trusts. Kluber has been inconsistent this season but he's coming along lately. Severino has been an All-Star a couple of times but still hasn't made his 2021 debut yet. Taillon, Montgomery, and German haven't put up solid numbers this season. Take Cole out and the Yankees might not be a .500 team right now. Having that star starting pitcher like Cole has its effect on the starting rotation and bullpen. More rest for the bullpen should mean a more effective bullpen. Right now, it's Trout or Cole as the MVP front runner in the American League with guys like John Means and Bogaerts in the hunt. 

[nate]

Stay healthy

[T.G.]

10 hours ago, nate said:

Stay healthy

[Jeff Fletcher]

If Ohtani can maintain exactly what he’s doing right now, he’s got a very good chance of winning MVP.

[Angels 1961]

10 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

If Ohtani can maintain exactly what he’s doing right now, he’s got a very good chance of winning MVP.

On a last place team?

[angelsnationtalk]

2 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

On a last place team?

How did Trout win 2 of his 3 MVPs? 

2016: Angels record was 74-88

2019: Angels record was 72-90

They sucked those 2 years and he still ran away with the MVP. 

[totdprods]

I don't think he needs to hit xx number of HRs or pitch x number of innings necessarily...if he stays healthy and on a pace similar to what he's done so far, he might just run away with it unless someone posts a historic season. 
There will be too much temptation to give it to a two-way player for the first time simply for that fact.

Unfortunately, the way his health has been to date, any successful full season both on the mound and at the plate where he's playing well above-average could always wind up being that one magical year too. It'll be too good to pass up. 

[Dtwncbad]

6 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

On a last place team?

Jesus are we going to cover this subject again?  The MVP is the player in the league that every GM would pick first to be in their team if they could go back to April with hindsight knowing how each player performed.

The intangibles do come into it, and if you are clearly influential in creating a winning environment, then being on a winning team can help you get votes.

You cannot eliminate players from being considered the most valuable player in the league if the pitching staff on that team sucks.

Its a stupid angle.

[nando714]

The angels not to be in last place 

[Lou]

8 minutes ago, nando714 said:

The angels not to be in last place 

Then he's a viable MVP candidate.