Will Eppler be employed by the Angels next season ?

[Claude]

Eppler is so screwed if Upton doesn’t rebound and Arte has to watch another $50M giveaway. It was a very bad idea to give Upton that contract. 

[JustATroutFan]

This team still has a problem with the starting pitching. So much that even a great pitching coach (Callaway) might not be able to fix. 

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Well if you aren’t going to count Trout’s extensions then you can’t count Upton. 

Bingo 

[Angel Oracle]

Just now, Stradling said:

Well if you aren’t going to count Trout’s extensions then you can’t count Upton. 

He could technically count, because he was only acquired a month before possibly opting out after 2017. 

My point being, you need good scouting to have more successful FA or trade acquisitions.
 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Angel Oracle said:

He could technically count, because he was only acquired a month before possibly opting out after 2017. 

My point being, you need good scouting to have more successful FA or trade acquisitions.
 

Just be consistent.  They were both on the team. 

[robblin17]

2 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

Our 3rd base situation was garbage for like the past 10 years

I’m not saying I dislike the Rendon signing at all. I really like it a lot, but we still have the same glaring issue we’ve always had that we have failed to address over and over again. Hopefully we won’t fail to address it again because we have $100M+ dumped into four position players (Pujols, Upton, Rendon, Trout). 

[robblin17]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

Bingo 

Okay, still terrible. 

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, robblin17 said:

Counting Trout’s extensions doesn’t really make sense and it’s too early on Rendon. I like that deal, but who knows with players over 30. We know how that goes. We were mostly happy with the Upton extension as well.  
 

Trying to spin Arte’s “big splash” signings into anything but catastrophic is pretty funny. 

He spent big money 9 times. Trout is two of them.  Like it or not it’s the truth.  Sorry it doesn’t fit the narrative.  

[Stradling]

Just now, robblin17 said:

Okay, still terrible. 

Ok.  But at least adding Trout makes it more honest and accurate. 

[robblin17]

Just now, Stradling said:

Ok.  But at least adding Trout makes it more honest and accurate. 

Whatever fits your spin! Trout was a no-brainer signing. A monkey for a GM would’ve re-signed Trout. All of the others actually required analysis of a player that wasn’t your own or an all time great. Come on. 

[Chuck]

Eppler has had plenty of time to fix this team's issues and hasn't. 

There's no way he's back unless he can flip Bundy, Simmons, Goodwin and maybe even Adell (if it gets us Clevinger/Pleasac) to shore up the pitching and other needs longterm. 

[Stradling]

Just now, robblin17 said:

Whatever fits your spin! Trout was a no-brainer signing. A monkey for a GM would’ve re-signed Trout. All of the others actually required analysis of a player that wasn’t your own or an all time great. Come on. 

Ok so no brainers mean no credit, got it.  Just be honest.  

[robblin17]

Just now, Stradling said:

Ok so no brainers mean no credit, got it.  Just be honest.  

Lol. Never said that. You can’t see that there is a difference between re-signing one of your own vs. a FA? 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Chuckster70 said:

Eppler has had plenty of time to fix this team's issues and hasn't. 

There's no way he's back unless he can flip Bundy, Simmons, Goodwin and maybe even Adell (if it gets us Clevinger/Pleasac) to shore up the pitching and other needs longterm. 

He should have done better with his mid tier pitching acquisitions.  But no, 5 years isn’t enough time to completely rebuild a franchise. 

[Stradling]

Just now, robblin17 said:

Lol. Never said that. You can’t see that there is a difference between re-signing one of your own vs. a FA? 

This is about when Arte spent big money.  He did that twice with Trout.  That can’t be left out of the equation unless you want to be dishonest and make it look even worse.  Isn’t it bad enough with Wells, Upton, Albert and Hamilton?   Why can’t you simply tell the entire story?  It doesn’t have to be skewed anymore unless you want it to look worse than it is. 

[Claude]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Ok so no brainers mean no credit, got it.  Just be honest.  

I give credit to Eppler for recruiting and signing Ohtani but there’s no doubt that Arte was all over extending Trout. Eppler probably had little to say about it. 

[Stradling]

32 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

One out of how many big splash signings total?

@robblin17 this is what I was responding to.  The biggest splash this team has ever made was Trout’s extension.  Their third biggest (after Albert) was Trout’s first extension. 

[robblin17]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

This is about when Arte spent big money.  He did that twice with Trout.  That can’t be left out of the equation unless you want to be dishonest and make it look even worse.  Isn’t it bad enough with Wells, Upton, Albert and Hamilton?   Why can’t you simply tell the entire story?  It doesn’t have to be skewed anymore unless you want it to look worse than it is. 

Then we are talking about two separate things. I’m talking about FA’s, which I think is a reasonable assumption when someone says big splash signings. Trout was a big $ amount, but it wasn’t as if the Angels resigning him was unexpected. 

[Chuck]

7 minutes ago, Stradling said:

He should have done better with his mid tier pitching acquisitions.  But no, 5 years isn’t enough time to completely rebuild a franchise. 

Your opinion, I think most Angels fans have seen and had enough. 

The bottom line is in the results, and it hasn't been pretty. 

[Stradling]

Just now, RendZone said:

I give credit to Eppler for recruiting and signing Ohtani but there’s no doubt that Arte was all over extending Trout. Eppler probably had little to say about it. 

But had a big influence on whether Trout wanted to be here. 

[robblin17]

Just now, Stradling said:

@robblin17 this is what I was responding to.  The biggest splash this team has ever made was Trout’s extension.  Their third biggest (after Albert) was Trout’s first extension. 

I guess we need a board wide definition of a big splash then. Also, Trout’s first extension was also when he was under club control. 

[Stradling]

Just now, robblin17 said:

I guess we need a board wide definition of a big splash then. Also, Trout’s first extension was also when he was under club control. 

Yes I know.  So was the second.  Go back on this board.   You’ll see a group of people that were convinced he would leave the first chance he could for multiple reasons.  Then he was never going to sign a second extension because Phillies and because Yankees.  

[robblin17]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yes I know.  So was the second.  Go back on this board.   You’ll see a group of people that were convinced he would leave the first chance he could for multiple reasons.  Then he was never going to sign a second extension because Phillies and because Yankees.  

That’s fine. But that wasn’t the case and we know that now. Trout always wanted to be here and if the $ was right, the deal was done. Shit, he probably left some on the table to be here. 

Edited August 20, 2020 by robblin17

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, robblin17 said:

That’s fine. But that wasn’t the case and we know that now. Trout always wanted to be here and if the $ was right, the deal was done. Shit he probably left some on the table to be here. 

Yes.  Which means he trusted Arte and Eppler. 

[robblin17]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yes.  Which means he trusted Arte and Eppler. 

Might need to reconsider that trust radar assuming winning is a big priority, which I think it is. That makes this situation even worse. It’s sad. 

Edited August 20, 2020 by robblin17