SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[Blarg]

11 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

I gotta agree with some of y'all. There's just no way this country could have done better. Our testing and tracing couldn't have been better and we definitely couldn't have had more consistent messaging from officials. There's no way that things could have been more coordinated in response to the virus. 'Twas fait accompli.

Yeah, I read the sarcasm but there is a point about sociology of the American way of life and government intrusion. Whatever steps that are taken didn't happen as a iron fist mandate like some of the other more government controlled countries.

In every state, California included, where there were stict mandates put in place there was plenty of push back. There still is even if science says that social distancing, wearing masks, staying out of populated areas whether it be shopping or transportation, that is the only path to infection avoidence. 

I guess fate was written into our societal DNA. Whatever clumsiness was added by intial misshandling still doesn't erase that code. 

[Blarg]

4 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

You and your testing bullshit. You do realize that the production of testing equipment takes longer than two nanoseconds right? Apparently on planet Fishbulb everything is free and comes immediately.

The United States greatly exceeds any other country on the planet when it comes to testing. Quit regurgitating the same nonsense over and over.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-total-tests-for-covid-19

I am sure the population of those other countries equal that of the US in per person reslts. Like Equador that has about the population of Los Angeles but nearly 30 times the land mass. South Korea seems to have tested nearly half of their population. The US only about 1/6th. 

[RallyMo]

12 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

You and your testing bullshit. You do realize that the production of testing equipment takes longer than two nanoseconds right? Apparently on planet Fishbulb everything is free and comes immediately.

The United States greatly exceeds any other country on the planet when it comes to testing. Quit regurgitating the same nonsense over and over.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-total-tests-for-covid-19

That post is reflexive nonsense.

[Jason]

19 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Yeah, I read the sarcasm but there is a point about sociology of the American way of life and government intrusion. Whatever steps that are taken didn't happen as a iron fist mandate like some of the other more government controlled countries.

In every state, California included, where there were stict mandates put in place there was plenty of push back. There still is even if science says that social distancing, wearing masks, staying out of populated areas whether it be shopping or transportation, that is the only path to infection avoidence. 

I guess fate was written into our societal DNA. Whatever clumsiness was added by intial misshandling still doesn't erase that code. 

When this virus first made it's way over here it was at the same time the impeachment was going on. Can you imagine the what the left's and the media's reaction would have been if Trump had shut everything down and focused 100% on the virus during that time? 

[Jason]

26 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

You and your testing bullshit. You do realize that the production of testing equipment takes longer than two nanoseconds right? Apparently on planet Fishbulb everything is free and comes immediately.

The United States greatly exceeds any other country on the planet when it comes to testing. Quit regurgitating the same nonsense over and over.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-total-tests-for-covid-19

 

15 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I am sure the population of those other countries equal that of the US in per person reslts. Like Equador that has about the population of Los Angeles but nearly 30 times the land mass. South Korea seems to have tested nearly half of their population. The US only about 1/6th. 

 

13 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

That post is reflexive nonsense.

The larger the country, the longer it's going to take to produce, distribute and conduct the tests. We do have a much higher volume of tests going and that is a good thing, especially with a virus that was brand new that we knew little about. Developing an accurate test for a virus isn't an easy and quick task either. 

[Lou]

1 hour ago, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

If the McRib were the cure would you eat it?

In a heartbeat.

My last one. 

[JarsOfClay]

#	Country, Other	Total Cases	New Cases	Total Deaths	New Deaths	Total Recovered	Active Cases	Serious, Critical	Tot Cases/ 1M pop	Deaths/ 1M pop	Total Tests	Tests/ 1M pop	Population
	World	20,943,634	+146,080	749,893	+3,487	13,802,808	6,390,933	64,589	2,687	96.2
1	USA	5,380,437	+20,135	169,546	+415	2,815,723	2,395,168	17,350	16,244	512	67,782,565	204,639	331,229,890
2	Brazil	3,180,758	+10,284	104,528	+265	2,309,477	766,753	8,318	14,952	491	13,231,548	62,197	212,735,424
3	India	2,459,464	+63,993	48,142	+1,004	1,750,568	660,754	8,944	1,780	35	26,845,688	19,431	1,381,567,238
4	Russia	907,758	+5,057	15,384	+124	716,396	175,978	2,300	6,220	105	31,598,302	216,513	145,941,946
5	South Africa	568,919		11,010		432,029	125,880	539	9,579	185	3,295,434	55,484	59,393,824
6	Peru	498,555		21,713		341,938	134,904	1,501	15,097	657	2,643,464	80,047	33,023,850
7	Mexico	498,380	+5,858	54,666	+737	336,635	107,079	3,775	3,861	423	1,127,115	8,731	129,088,353
8	Colombia	422,519		13,837		239,785	168,897	1,493	8,294	272	2,023,256	39,714	50,945,148
9	Chile	380,034	+1,866	10,299	+94	353,131	16,604	1,259	19,860	538	1,932,592	100,997	19,135,201
10	Spain	376,864		28,579		N/A	N/A	617	8,060	611	7,472,031	159,806	46,756,944
11	Iran	336,324	+2,625	19,162	+174	292,058	25,104	3,971	3,998	228	2,788,027	33,145	84,115,247
12	UK	313,798		41,329		N/A	N/A	70	4,620	608	18,868,566	277,774	67,927,863
13	Saudi Arabia	294,519	+1,482	3,303	+34	260,393	30,823	1,805	8,445	95	4,071,857	116,756	34,874,813
14	Pakistan	286,674	+753	6,139	+10	264,060	16,475	783	1,295	28	2,205,664	9,964	221,366,281
15	Bangladesh	269,115	+2,617	3,557	+44	154,871	110,687		1,632	22	1,315,901	7,981	164,878,278
16	Argentina	268,574		5,246	+33	192,434	70,894	1,585	5,936	116	911,596	20,149	45,243,676
17	Italy	252,235	+522	35,231	+6	202,923	14,081	55	4,173	583	7,420,764	122,756	60,451,116
18	Turkey	245,635	+1,243	5,912	+21	228,057	11,666	647	2,909	70	5,521,880	65,392	84,443,200
19	Germany	221,785	+935	9,281	+5	200,800	11,704	224	2,646	111	8,586,648	102,447	83,815,640
20	France	206,696		30,371		83,472	92,853	379	3,166	465	5,500,000	84,239	65,290,667

 

Top 4 Countries have idiot far right wingers as presidents who cant get this shit under control. 

 

[JarsOfClay]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

More than 2,500 new coronavirus cases were registered in France in 24 hours in the sharpest increase since May, government data showed on Wednesday, as officials said indicators were "clearly worsening".

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/20200812-france-sees-highest-new-daily-virus-cases-since-may

Covid-19 news: Germany joins Spain in worrying surge of infections. 

Germany and Spain among a growing list of western European countries where coronavirus cases are surging

Coronavirus cases are rising in Germany, Spain and other countries in western Europe, with Spain recording 1418 new infections on Tuesday, and Germany detecting 1200 cases in the last 24 hours, the country’s biggest daily increase for three months.

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2237475-covid-19-news-germany-joins-spain-in-worrying-surge-of-infections/#ixzz6V0sHhdlL

 

Yeah, they've got this shit totally under control.

 

Germany has 2600 cases per 1m pop, France has 3100 per 1m pop. The US has 16,000 cases per 1m pop. 

I'm pretty sure they are doing a better job than the US.

[Lhalo]

1 minute ago, JarsOfClay said:

Germany has 2600 cases per 1m pop, France has 3100 per 1m pop. The US has 16,000 cases per 1m pop. 

I'm pretty sure they are doing a better job than the US.

That's because we administer more tests.

[Lhalo]

I adjusted the chart to show deaths per 1m pop. Sorry it doesn't fit Jars' narrative.

[JarsOfClay]

3 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

I adjusted the chart to show deaths per 1m pop. Sorry it doesn't fit Jars' narrative.

That's a stupid stat to go by because it goes by factors that you can't control like pre-existing conditions and age of population. And mortality rate is much higher with people that have those conditions.

Like Italy for instance has a much older population so their deaths per 1m is very high as a result. San Marino is completely enclosed by Italy and had the same problem.

Cases per 1m pop is better at showing the competence/incompetence of leadership.

[Jason]

4 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

That's a stupid stat to go by because it goes by factors that you can't control like pre-existing conditions and age of population. And mortality rate is much higher with people that have those conditions.

Like Italy for instance has a much older population so their deaths per 1m is very high as a result. San Marino is completely enclosed by Italy and had the same problem.

Cases per 1m pop is better at showing the competence/incompetence of leadership.

So on one side we have those that think it's a hoax and the other that thinks the president controls what the virus does. We deserve this as a country 

[JarsOfClay]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

So on one side we have those that think it's a hoax and the other that thinks the president controls what the virus does. We deserve this as a country 

And then we have your side who make up shit and put words in people's mouths.

[Brandon]

If eating a McRib was the cure, I'd rather wear a mask soaked in Covid and Ron Jeremy's semen.

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

And then we have your side who make up shit and put words in people's mouths.

You consistently blame Trump for everything to do with this virus. Viruses are not as simplistic as you make them out to be. 

[angelinkc]

10 hours ago, Brandon said:

100% agree with this.

These fucking keyboard warriors and their shit talking or put downs need to be addressed. Someone hides behind a keyboard and feels like they can say what they want. You talk shit in my day you got repercussions. Now it's freedom of speech and all sorts of bullshit.....to the point they even call you out as a goon because you can articulate a point but didn't go to the same school and learn Microsoft Point. With VPN's people will be ahead of the curve, but I wish people that said foul shit or talked tough on the internet got a visit.

If I punch someone in the jaw I'm sure they won't have the bravado to say it to more people. I don't advocate violence and am usually the diffuser. I messed up some people wrestling and have seen shit where some dude punches a dude in a bar and he hits his head on the bar as he goes down and it's manslaughter with 20 years because the other dude was drunk and provoked a response. But I do think people need to get their ass kicked....and not in that dumb jock or bro-is way.

Really does benefit society when people learn these lessons early in life. An ass whipping at 12 is less severe than a grown man fight. Same principle works at home. Damn near every kid on Ritalin is a product of a non whipping household. 

[JarsOfClay]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

You consistently blame Trump for everything to do with this virus. Viruses are not as simplistic as you make them out to be. 

Sure. Keep making up shit. You'll fit right in with the other conspiracy Qanon idiots that have infiltrated the republican party.

[angelinkc]

5 hours ago, tennischmp said:

Since you just brush 200k lives lost just like that willy nilly, I’ll try to put that in context you may sympathize with better. What if Mexican illegals were killing 1000 people a day? What if rioters were killing 1000 cops a night? What if Al-Qaeda were committing 1 9/11 every 3 days? What if Kim Jong-un nuked us and killed 200k? What if 1000 troops were dying over seas daily? Would you just blow that off as it being only 0.06% of the population all willy nilly like that?

What if liberals supported killing 3000 babies daily since the 1970s

[angelinkc]

Time to accept the reality that most everyone is going to get infected. Also time to get back to living our lives. 

[Lhalo]

14 minutes ago, angelinkc said:

What if liberals supported killing 3000 babies daily since the 1970s

[gotbeer]

New Zealand coronavirus: 14 new Covid-19 cases reported

Brazilian chicken wings tested positive for coronavirus in China

 

That's the thing with the Rona.  Unless you go total isolationism, it's going to get in no matter what you do.  And I can't think of one country that can survive isolationism for an extended period of time.  

 

[Angel Oracle]

45 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

New Zealand coronavirus: 14 new Covid-19 cases reported

Brazilian chicken wings tested positive for coronavirus in China

 

That's the thing with the Rona.  Unless you go total isolationism, it's going to get in no matter what you do.  And I can't think of one country that can survive isolationism for an extended period of time.  

 

Exactly

How often has America needed to be isolated for such a long time?    This is uncharted territory, and one can't blame people for being totally frustrated with it. 

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Exactly.  And in South Korea's case.  I wonder how Americans would feel if the government was allowed to have access to phone tracking data, credit card purchasing data, all cctv, etc.  All without a warrant.  I don't think they would be as compliant as in South Korea, and their contact tracing.  Heck, it would just be funny to see the Karen libs heads spin when the US says they are closing the borders to everyone.  

Look at how they reacted when Trump banned travel from China into the USA at the end of January.

 

[Redondo]

Biden calls for requiring all Americans to wear masks outdoors for 'at least' next three months

[Jason]

2 hours ago, gotbeer said:

New Zealand coronavirus: 14 new Covid-19 cases reported

Brazilian chicken wings tested positive for coronavirus in China

 

That's the thing with the Rona.  Unless you go total isolationism, it's going to get in no matter what you do.  And I can't think of one country that can survive isolationism for an extended period of time.  

 

Antarctica?