SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[tdawg87]

8 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

The kid had a seizure and fell in the shower. He had 0 symptoms before this happened. I’m calling bullshit. 

Seizures have been considered an extreme symptom of Covid since April. 

[Lhalo]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

Seizures have been considered an extreme symptom of Covid since April. 

So he didn’t have a cough or a fever, he just went straight into seizure mode. Sounds legit. It happens all the time right?

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Lhalo said:

So he didn’t have a cough or a fever, he just went straight into seizure mode. Sounds legit. It happens all the time right?

No, it's not common. 

But it's more likely than there being some world-wide conspiracy to boost Covid death numbers to make Trump look bad.

[Lhalo]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

No, it's not common. 

But it's more likely than there being some world-wide conspiracy to boost Covid death numbers to make Trump look bad.

Hey look tdawg found a straw man. Instead of pumping conspiracy diarrhea how about you show me another example of someone without pre-existing conditions who has had a seizure from coronavirus.

[RallyMo]

17 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

So he didn’t have a cough or a fever, he just went straight into seizure mode. Sounds legit. It happens all the time right?

It doesn't happen all the time.

It also didn't happen in this case.

He had a fever induced seizure, apparently.

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Hey look tdawg found a straw man. Instead of pumping conspiracy diarrhea how about you show me another example of someone without pre-existing conditions who has had a seizure from coronavirus.

I didn't find a strawman. You know that's exactly what you're getting at.

As for another "example", I don't have one and probably won't find one since there are dozens of symptoms and hundreds of thousands of deaths worldwide due to Covid. I also said it was rare, which it is.

I will, however, provide some fake news for you regarding the link between seizures and Coronavirus:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7212943/

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Neurological problems found in patients with coronavirus infection include: febrile seizures, convulsions, loss of consciousness, encephalomyelitis, and encephalitis. Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is caused by SARS-CoV2. In severe cases, patients may develop severe pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, and acute cardiac injury. While seizures and status epilepticus have not been widely reported in the past five months since the onset of COVID-19 pandemic, patients with COVID-19 may have hypoxia, multiorgan failure, and severe metabolic and electrolyte disarrangements; hence, it is plausible to expect clinical or subclinical acute symptomatic seizures to happen in these patients.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86118

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We describe the first patient to develop a focal status epilepticus as a presenting symptom of SARS-CoV-2 infection," reported Catello Vollono, MD, PhD, of Fondazione Policlinico Universitario Agostino Gemelli in Rome, and co-authors in Seizure.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214250920300901

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However, the SARS COV-2 virus can result in a wide variety of neurological presentations including seizures that have only been recently documented [2].

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19-infection

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Now, more than 300 studies from around the world have found a prevalence of neurological abnormalities in Covid-19 patients, including mild symptoms like headaches, loss of smell (anosmia) and tingling sensations (arcoparasthesia), up to more severe outcomes such as aphasia (inability to speak), strokes and seizures. This is in addition to recent findings that the virus, which has been largely considered to be a respiratory disease, can also wreak havoc on the kidneys, liver, heart, and just about every organ system in the body.

 

[RallyMo]

21 hours ago, fishbulb said:

Amen. We gotta take a kinda kitchen sink approach here, which is why the politicization of hcq is such a pain in the ass. It's also why teasing out good data is so difficult. It sure seems like steroids do a heck of a lot of good once a patient is sick enough to be hospitalized. We use dexa almost universally, zinc, c, D3, melatonin, Remdesivir when a patient qualifies and convalescent plasma as much as supply allows us to. Try and keep O2 sats as high as possible with HFNC (then weaning to the extent that we can) and avoid venting at almost all costs. Use ECMO judiciously and when necessary. It's something else, man.

I really hope we hit some kind of herd immunity threshold that's lower than previously speculated for whatever combo of reasons (t cells, undetected spread, etc).

Oh, I forgot to mention that almost all of our patients are on anticoagulants, typically Lovenox. Throw everything thing at 'em that you got.

[tdawg87]

Lovenox sounds like boner medicine.

[Lhalo]

8 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I didn't find a strawman. You know that's exactly what you're getting at.

As for another "example", I don't have one and probably won't find one since there are dozens of symptoms and hundreds of thousands of deaths worldwide due to Covid. I also said it was rare, which it is.

I will, however, provide some fake news for you regarding the link between seizures and Coronavirus:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7212943/

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86118

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214250920300901

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19-infection

 

Well if it’s rare then it’s a big deal and there should be news stories about it somewhere right? Or maybe it just doesn’t happen. 

Edited August 9, 2020 by Lhalo

[Adam]

There’s a pretty nasty bug out there guys. If you get it you’ll almost certainly be fine but be cautious.

[RallyMo]

4 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Lovenox sounds like boner medicine.

It's not. We give it to prevent blood clots, which happen rather frequently with COVID.

[RallyMo]

2 minutes ago, Adam said:

There’s a pretty nasty bug out there guys. If you get it you’ll almost certainly be fine but be cautious.

It's pretty simple, really. Sadly, simple isn't easy for many.

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Well if it’s rare then it’s a big deal and there should be news stories about it somewhere right? Or maybe it just doesn’t happen. 

There is a news story about it. It was posted on the previous page.

[Lhalo]

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

I hope you get Covid and develop a pretty persistent cough that is annoying as hell to your family.

[Lou]

1 hour ago, Adam said:

There’s a pretty nasty bug out there guys. If you get it you’ll almost certainly be fine but be cautious.

That was not a dope rhyme.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

That was not a dope rhyme.

Right? Way to disappoint, Adam.

[Brandon]

Not so fast my friends.

Remember, Adam doesn't need a mask when he can stop an ANTIFA bat to the dome with a few ciabattas

 

[Blarg]

On 8/8/2020 at 11:44 AM, fishbulb said:

 

I completely understand your position. Based on a real quick and admittedly not that deep review, it seems that of all the trials, the only one that actually used a placebo was a Remdesivir study preformed in China.

At USC Norris (and I believe other research facilities) they got approval for trials without control groups for patients suffering from stage four bladder cancer. The reasoning is their survival rates were so minimal that they concluded the patients who choose to participate understood their life expectancy was null and as such no treatment could be considered doing harm. 

I feel like this is a truly human way of finding the basis of a cure without simply writing off the lives of those that are the control group. 

But, admittedly I have no real medical background so the nuances and mechanics of research are not area of expertise. That a making and proper soufflé. 

[Tank]

7 hours ago, Brandon said:

Not so fast my friends.

Remember, Adam doesn't need a mask when he can stop an ANTIFA bat to the dome with a few ciabattas

 

Dude, what are you talking about?

 

 

those are obviously breadsticks from Olive Garden.

 

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Tank said:

Dude, what are you talking about?

those are obviously breadsticks from Olive Garden.

 

Brandon doesn't enjoy fine dining. 

[Tank]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

Brandon doesn't enjoy fine dining. 

#poorbrandon

[Adam]

8 hours ago, Lou said:

That was not a dope rhyme.

That’s because I wrote it in English. In Farsi that shit is fly

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Adam said:

That’s because I wrote it in English. In Farsi that shit is fly

 

[Brandon]

1 hour ago, Tank said:

Dude, what are you talking about?

 

 

those are obviously breadsticks from Olive Garden.

 

Valid point, those breadsticks still look edible after three years.