Trade candidates: Gray, Ray, Mets SP...

[CanadianHalo]

40 minutes ago, totdprods said:

One report today had the Angels having kicked the tires on Joe Musgrove. 

Musgrove would be a good get I think. Trending in the right direction. 
 

He had 3 really bad outings last year that inflated those numbers a bit. 

He gave up 8 to StLouis in 3IP. Another 8 to the Mets in 3.1IP. Then gave up 6 in 4IP to Atlanta.

He was lights out to start the year. Also went into Houston last year and pitched 6 innings of shut out ball.

[CanadianHalo]

Maybe we can swing a deal for Musgrove AND Archer (not a huge fan). Would give us a little more flexibility on top of adding Keuchel. 

[tdawg87]

More like Joe Mustgroove

[Pancake Bear]

10 hours ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

I'm just going to pretend that Eppler is working to put together a package to snag Clevinger from Cleveland. He's going to try and disrupt the Lindor/Clevinger to the Dogs or Pads discussion thats being rumored and get Clevinger.

If they wanted Marsh for Kluber, they’ll ask for Trout, Ohtani, and Adell for Clevinger and then tell us if we really wanted to win we’d pull the trigger on it. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

Musgrove is exactly the kind of upside play I can see Eppler making as a second acquisition. 
 

Everyone would hate it, and it might not work, but it wouldn’t surprise me. 
 

 

 

Eppler likes spin, ground balls, velo and strikeouts. I’ll let you guys do the searching.

Edited December 16, 2019 by Jeff Fletcher

[Halodays]

How about Carlos Martinez  as a starter?

[hangin n wangin]

35 minutes ago, Halodays said:

How about Carlos Martinez  as a starter?

I would love it. I’ve always liked C Mart.

[TroutField]

This pursuit of starters turned out to be a fucking disaster, unfortunately. 

[Docwaukee]

7 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Musgrove is exactly the kind of upside play I can see Eppler making as a second acquisition. 
 

Everyone would hate it, and it might not work, but it wouldn’t surprise me. 
 

 

 

Eppler likes spin, ground balls, velo and strikeouts. I’ll let you guys do the searching.

mentioned him in another thread.  Wouldn't hate it at all if the price was right.  

If we gave up Marsh, I would hate it.  

[totdprods]

Jake Junis? Danny Duffy?

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, Dochalo said:

mentioned him in another thread.  Wouldn't hate it at all if the price was right.  

If we gave up Marsh, I would hate it.  

Well, after I posted about him, he was a no in the same conversation as Teheran. 

[Docwaukee]

Just now, Jeff Fletcher said:

Well, after I posted about him, he was a no in the same conversation as Teheran. 

bummer.  thought he'd be a solid option.  Was it because the Angels don't like him that much or that the pirates asking price is too high?  

[hangin n wangin]

What about Eduardo Rodriguez?

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

The more names that got thrown out and shut down or signed up; the more I'm leaning towards believing the Angels' are targeting someone completely out of the blue that nobody is going to expect. Atlanta has a couple top notch pitching prospects, we've dealt with them in the past, maybe something from them?

[failos]

A week ago we were talking about Cole, now we’re talking about Joe Musgrove.

[failos]

What about _____?

[tdawg87]

Kevin Bacon

[Lou]

50 minutes ago, failos said:

A week ago we were talking about Cole, now we’re talking about Joe Musgrove.

true, but we're not talking about $324M either. also, were talking about Rendon.

so there's that...

[failos]

36 minutes ago, Lou said:

true, but we're not talking about $324M either. also, were talking about Rendon.

so there's that...

Good point. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

7 hours ago, Dochalo said:

bummer.  thought he'd be a solid option.  Was it because the Angels don't like him that much or that the pirates asking price is too high?  

Didn’t ask. 

[totdprods]

5 hours ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

The more names that got thrown out and shut down or signed up; the more I'm leaning towards believing the Angels' are targeting someone completely out of the blue that nobody is going to expect. Atlanta has a couple top notch pitching prospects, we've dealt with them in the past, maybe something from them?

Or Matt Boyd. Been pretty quiet this winter for him and Eppler deals with Detroit very frequently. Maybe his poor second-half brought his price down and Detroit will be more motivated to sell high now if they think the first-half was a fluke.

But I agree with you, I think Eppler is willing to deal some prospects for someone with control, upside, and a modest arb salary, which could be anyone depending on which prospects he’s comfortable parting with and how much he likes the upside of the arm. 

Edited December 17, 2019 by totdprods

[zenmaster]

I have a feeling we might end up with someone like Ivan Nova.

[totdprods]

7 minutes ago, zenmaster said:

I have a feeling we might end up with someone like Ivan Nova.

Homer Bailey put up 2 bWAR and 3 fWAR. A 3.65 FIP. Nova still gets great GB rates and eats innings.

I think he also threw more quality starts (13?) than Canning and Heaney did combined. 

I wouldn’t be totally bummed if we went super cheap like Smyly, Gio, Bailey, Chacin, Hellickson or Nova if it was the *third* arm after Keuchel/Ryu or a trade for someone with some upside...but I would hope the Angels also add a vet RP, one of Castellanos at 1B, Souza, Pillar, for some RF 1-year deal action, solid vet catcher...count on one of the kids to bump that cheap vet midseason.

Edited December 17, 2019 by totdprods

[Erstad Grit]

How about Lester? Cubs want to shed and Darvish said he's not waiving his no trade.

[ten ocho recon scout]

17 hours ago, hangin n wangin said:

What about Eduardo Rodriguez?

I feel like guys like that are available every year. At least guys named that always are.