Simmons a trade candidate?

[Angelsjunky]

MLB.com mentioned him as a player that could be traded (too lazy to find the link - someone posted it in another thread). The more I think about it, the more it kind of makes sense with Fletcher and Rengifo, not to mention Jones, Jackson, Soto, etc. Sure, He's a bonafide star shortstop. But he also has significant trade value, especially with 1.5 years left on his current--very club-friendly--contract (assuming he would get traded in July).

I'm not saying it will or should happen, but is worth considering - if someone offers a nice prospect package or a young high ceiling pitcher.

Discuss.

[Chuck]

I'm telling you. 

A team would need to back the fucking truck up with prospects if they want Simmons. 

I just cannot think of this team without him, much like when we did this shit with Trout. 

[Jason]

If the value the Halos get in return is worth it, then yes. His defense would be hard to replace though 

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

If the value the Halos get in return is worth it, then yes. His defense would be hard to replace though 

It's not just his defense though. I honestly think he's the smartest human on the diamond and while he's not Trout at the plate, his bat isn't too shabby either. 

My wife told me after last night's game that she think Simmons will be a sought after manager once he retires. 

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

It's not just his defense though. I honestly think he's the smartest human on the diamond and while he's not Trout at the plate, his bat isn't too shabby either. 

My wife told me after last night's game that she think Simmons will be a sought after manager once he retires. 

I’m not saying I’d be quick to trade him but nobody (except Trout) should be untouchable. 

[nate]

I would be gutted, he is one of my favorite players to watch.

[Stradling]

I would really hate to see him go, but if we could get a legitimate 3rd baseman or catcher and a potential top of the rotation arm you have to at least consider it, even though he is the best defensively I have ever seen at any position.  

[nate]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I would really hate to see him go, but if we could get a legitimate 3rd baseman or catcher and a potential top of the rotation arm you have to at least consider it, even though he is the best defensively I have ever seen at any position.  

He is under contract until 2022 I think and is one of the very best players on the team.  You would need a legit 3b and a top of the rotation arm.

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, nate said:

He is under contract until 2022 I think and is one of the very best players on the team.  You would need a legit 3b and a top of the rotation arm.

I think it's 2021, no?

[Jason]

8 minutes ago, nate said:

I would be gutted, he is one of my favorite players to watch.

Absolutely 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, nate said:

He is under contract until 2022 I think and is one of the very best players on the team.  You would need a legit 3b and a top of the rotation arm.

Yep, that is why I said 3rd or catcher AND a top of the rotation arm.  I think we have Simmons for this year and next.  Do we really have him for another year or two after that? 

[beatlesrule]

[Angelsjunky]

He's signed through 2020, like Trout was.

[UndertheHalo]

Simmons leaving the Angels would for me be the most painful player to see go.  I’m not old enough for some of the guys from the late 70’s and 80’s. 

But.....this could be a sell high opportunity.  Like @Chuckster70 says.  If some team absolutely backs up the truck for him.  Potentially this moves the Angels closer to a serious contention window.  My biggest thing is that I’m not sure what kind of contract I’d want to give him should they extend him.  IMO you really can’t pay guys significantly if they aren’t going to deliver with the bat.  Simmons is solid now,  and I’m not concerned about his fielding work declining.  But I’m not sure how the bat plays as he exits his prime years. 

[Angelsjunky]

Well, that's what is appealing about the idea: The Angels could sell high and also be able to replace him with something halfway decent.

Let's say Simmons is good for 5-6 WAR a season. Fletcher or Rengifo seem capable of 3 WAR. That's a loss of 2-3 WAR. But then you add in salary and club control. And then you think in terms of what you get in return: probably at least a grade A-/A prospect and one or two B range prospects. 

But they certainly don't have to trade him, which means that if they do it will be for something very, very good.

 

[Slegnaac]

Dude is Spiderman with a glove.  

Like Trout, I don't think it is possible that a team offers what he is worth.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

As noted he's currently signed through 2020 which is his age 30 season.  I think his skill set should age well as far as defense goes but he'll be in line for a multiyear contract and a raise.  I would think he gets more than the 15M a year he's set to make next year while Lindor/Baez/Correa could all set the market if they have some of their arbitration years bought out.  They don't have to trade him but if they aren't going to extend him or try to then I think you definitely test the waters.  You might not get what he's worth but is the team willing to possibly pay his next contract when the reality is he's going to start declining? 

[PattyD22]

26 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

It's not just his defense though. I honestly think he's the smartest human on the diamond and while he's not Trout at the plate, his bat isn't too shabby either. 

My wife told me after last night's game that she think Simmons will be a sought after manager once he retires. 

As Chuckster said, Simmons is just such a smart player.  The play he made last night letting that ball drop and doubling off the Blue Jay player is just something that most players wouldn't consider.  His defense is really good, and while I thought he was getting a little "pull happy" earlier in the season, his hit to right center last night was vintage Simmons.

I'd hate to see him go, but no one is immune.

[Tank]

[Tank]

look, we were lucky atlanta was stupid enough to trade him to us. this is a guy you build around, not trade. 

you might be able to get a top notch player in return for him, but as my grandpa used to say, "What you gain in hay you lose in oats."

[Jay]

I would hate to see him go but hey, if you can make the team better with a trade including Simmons, it might be worth exploring.

 

[Second Base]

Trading Andrelton Simmons on a defensive minded Billy Eppler led team?  

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Trading Andrelton Simmons on a defensive minded Billy Eppler led team?  

La Stella, Kevan Smith and Bour were all brought in this off season, none of them are plus defenders and might not even be average defenders.  

[UndertheHalo]

Just now, Stradling said:

La Stella, Kevan Smith and Bour were all brought in this off season, none of them are plus defenders and might not even be average defenders.  

Ya this off-season sort of shredded that whole idea from last year.  

[T.G.]

Now that Trout has signed his extension... the media is looking for new FAKE NEWs.