Angels sign Cody Allen

[zenmaster]

Bad last year but probably better than anything we got to close.

[Stradling]

 

[failos]

Great signing

[Torridd]

10 hours ago, rafibomb said:

Angels obviously gearing up for next year's FA class which I am totally okay with.

Is next year's class better than this one? Who's available besides Arenado, especially in the arms department?

[Glen]

1 minute ago, Torridd said:

Is next year's class better than this one? Who's available besides Arenado, especially in the arms department?

Well, a bunch of guys currently on the Angels will be available.

[Lou]

5 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Is next year's class better than this one? Who's available besides Arenado, especially in the arms department?

Cole

Sale

Verlander 

Bumgarner 

[AngelsFaninGA]

ERA under 5 which basically makes him our best reliever by default. Good signing. 

[zenmaster]

10 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Is next year's class better than this one? Who's available besides Arenado, especially in the arms department?

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/08/2019-20-mlb-free-agents.html

[Torridd]

OK, I've read all the comments. Would anyone surmise why  he had the problems last year? Why do you think there were no takers up to now, which may be telling?

[Lou]

7 minutes ago, Torridd said:

OK, I've read all the comments. Would anyone surmise why  he had the problems last year? Why do you think there were no takers up to now, which may be telling?

there haven't been any takers for Machado, Harper, Pollock, Kimbrel and Gonzales.

is that telling?

[Torridd]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

there haven't been any takers for Machado, Harper, Pollock, Kimbrel and Gonzales.

is that telling?

How is Allen in their class? I'm not saying something is definitely wrong, but I wonder why there hasn't been as much talk with Allen as some of the other agents who were signed.

[Lou]

Just now, Torridd said:

How is Allen in their class? I'm not saying something is definitely wrong, but I wonder why there hasn't been as much talk with Allen as some of the other agents who were signed.

because he settled on the Angels since we would give him the opportunity to be a closer and they've been negotiating contract terms? 

 

[Torridd]

18 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Would anyone surmise why  he had the problems last year?

Help with this part?

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, Torridd said:

Help with this part?

Walks were up, velocity dipped -- got rocked in three games that slanted the overall numbers.   I think most of this has been said in the thread.   Allen is a name brand guy coming off a subpar year.  Some will cling to his history, others will not be able to look past his ERA last year.  At the end of the day he's pretty much what people were clamoring for, an established guy with a track record who may help solidify things.   I'd like to see another RP added but that's just me.

[Angelsfan1984]

45 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Walks were up, velocity dipped -- got rocked in three games that slanted the overall numbers.   I think most of this has been said in the thread.   Allen is a name brand guy coming off a subpar year.  Some will cling to his history, others will not be able to look past his ERA last year.  At the end of the day he's pretty much what people were clamoring for, an established guy with a track record who may help solidify things.   I'd like to see another RP added but that's just me.

I agree. 1 more reliable vet, like Holland would be nice. Should Allen falter, Holland can step in and close until someone like Buttrey is ready to take over.

[T.G.]

Cool.... they signed Tim Allen's son. 

[Angelsfan1984]

10 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Cool.... they signed Tim Allen's son. 

[Mark68]

11 hours ago, WeatherWonk said:

I DISAGREE.

Guy has been garbage for 1.5 years.

It's like the jr. high dance, when there is only one girl left. 

Yeah, but when that girl lets you get to 2nd base...

[stevestevens]

Hope he finds a special sauce that helps him throw it 2-3 mph faster next year catapulting him to a multi year deal some place else in 2020.

[krAbs]

Fangraphs projects him to be our best reliever, by WAR (note - these numbers are a bit funky for relievers, because WAR is a cumulative stats, so projected IP has a big influence in a relievers WAR production); and a top 3 reliever by ERA. If he manages to bounce back a bit, this could be a great signing. 8.5 million feels like a bit of an overpay, but...that also may just be where the market is...

[Mark68]

5 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Burt Hooton-esque?

Nobody remembers Burt Hooten, old man.*

 

 

 

 

* I remember him.

[Slegnaac]

12 hours ago, Taylor said:

Two first names.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[eligrba4ever]

Cody Allen.

1 year, $8.5 million plus $2.5 million incentives.

Nothing Ventured. Nothing Gained.

Offseason Tour: 2018-19

GO ANGELS!!!

[jangel7]

The question to me is what impact Doug White will have on these pitchers coming off down years. If he can have a consistent positive impact on the entire staff it could be a fun year.

[totdprods]

Another way to look at Cody Allen's 2018:

Opening Day to 7/7: 
37 games, 36 IP
3.25 ERA, 13 BB, 44 K, 5 HRA

7/10:
1 game, 0.2 IP
81.00 ERA, 2 BB, 1 K, 0 HRA

7/13 to 9/26:
30 games, 29.2 IP
3.03 ERA, 16 BB, 33 K, 6 HRA

9/28 & 9/29:
2 games, 0.2 IP
81.00 ERA, 2 BB, 2 K, 0 HRA

The HR allowed is of concern, but he was arguably 'good' in 96% of his appearances, if you consider a 3.14 ERA, 29 BB, 77 K in 65.2 IP 'good' for a reliever.
I wouldn't classify that as a dominant, elite reliever or even the ideal line for a closer, but that's pretty good in my book. 

Honestly, it feels like we bought a more expensive, proven version of Blake Parker with a much higher ceiling.
I'd say we have roughly a...
25% chance we get peak Cody Allen return to form,
25% chance he underperforms, and a
50% chance we get the same production we got from Blake in '17-'18.

Odds are strong that we're able to flip him in July for something useful too, if there's need. Eppler may also be able to roll a couple of these 1-yr vets into a package for one rich team with a deep farm for one pretty good prospect too. A team like Atlanta, who Billy trades with a lot, could have a ton of interest in a healthy Harvey and Allen come July.

Edited January 18, 2019 by totdprods