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Angel Fans should be FIRED!!!!!


HBMike

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At least some of you. I remember the Artie is cheap. Fire Stoneman, he can't make the big trade! You have no right to be bitching, you got what you asked for! Instead of saying, I was wrong, now it's Fire Scioscia, Fire Dipoto!  Maybe they should be fired, for listening to the fans and giving them what they wanted. No more Scioscia ball! Be careful what you ask for, because you may not be happy with the results. 

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At least some of you. I remember the Artie is cheap. Fire Stoneman, he can't make the big trade! You have no right to be bitching, you got what you asked for! Instead of saying, I was wrong, now it's Fire Scioscia, Fire Dipoto!  Maybe they should be fired, for listening to the fans and giving them what they wanted. No more Scioscia ball! Be careful what you ask for, because you may not be happy with the results. 

 Mike, though you do make some good points, at least in the underlying theme of what you wrote, none of the FO personnel actually makes moves on the opinions of the fan base. None of these moves and acquisitions were made to placate the fan base. As far as bitching and griping, that is what fans all over do. It has always been that way. Don't  you think it is important to have a variety of opinions? Also, the theme of the arguments and debates is not the personnel choices, well sans some of the pitching acquisitions anyway, but how these resources are being used, prepared, the on-field decision making, and the lack of disciplinary and corrective measures being meted out.

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I'm thinking this is just another super-fan thread. There is nothing worse than people who think they are better fans than other people. This board seems to have a lot of those.

I might fall into that category but I truly don't try to. My issue is when people ask for one thing (ie: big left handed bat) Arte gets them that one thing and it doesn't work out, and everyone goes revisionist history on us. I don't like when fans show little or no perspective. I also don't care for the amount of hate Scioscia gets, and I am all for a new manager. I just think that a lot of fans here think that if a move doesn't work then it was a bad move, instead of the player didn't get the job done. That's all I got on this topic for now.

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Superfan syndrome aside.  There has been a lot of hypocrisy from fans who called for Stoneman's head season after season for not pulling the trigger are now positive it can only be Sosh's fault that strategy hasn't worked.

 

Doesn't mean they are true fans, lesser fans, worse fans, they were just wrong.  :)

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Exactly right.  It's why major league teams don't make panic moves or moves to appease the fan base.

 

Like trading your best catcher for a declining 30 something outfielder.

 

Or signing a 32 year old 1B to a 10 year deal.

 

Or trading 3 great prospects for a 2 1/2 month rental that MIGHT help you make the playoffs

 

oh wait

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I might fall into that category but I truly don't try to. My issue is when people ask for one thing (ie: big left handed bat) Arte gets them that one thing and it doesn't work out, and everyone goes revisionist history on us. I don't like when fans show little or no perspective. I also don't care for the amount of hate Scioscia gets, and I am all for a new manager. I just think that a lot of fans here think that if a move doesn't work then it was a bad move, instead of the player didn't get the job done. That's all I got on this topic for now.

You make good points here, Stradling. I have made my share of criticism of Mike Scoiscia, though other than my Comment Prediction threads (that might be just getting a tad old and overdone, lol) I try not to insult him personally. I don't make fun of his weight, nor do I short change him on his past accomplisments as a very successful manager. In fact, until just a few seasons ago, Mike Scoiscia was someone I always looked up to as far as a baseball mind. I always wore Angel shirts with his number on it (and still do), and was proud to have him as the manager of our team. I also realize that the players themselves bear most of the onus for the poor product we are seeing, and have seen in recent years. I do, sadly, think it is probably time for a move on the manager front - but to tell you the truth, deep down inside, nothing would make me happier than to see this team turn the season around, kick ass, get to the postseason - all under Mike Scoiscia's leadership.

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I'm thinking this is just another super-fan thread. There is nothing worse than people who think they are better fans than other people. This board seems to have a lot of those.

Never said I am a better fan, just a fan! or fan!! or FAN!!! I was just trying to make a point.

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