Calhoun

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Pablo said:

Ahhh, my bad -- In that case......

 

I got nothin'.

 

In that case, I took back my LIKE 

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, fan_since79 said:

Ted Williams would have agreed.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=willite01&t=b&year=1959#2077-2102-sum:batting_gamelogs

What, pray tell, the F*ck am I looking at here?

[Stradling]

If I had to guess Ted Williams worst slump

[fan_since79]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

What, pray tell, the F*ck am I looking at here?

A Ted Williams slump. Link doesn't work? I'll check it again.

[fan_since79]

Just now, SuperTroopers said:

If I had to guess Ted Williams worst slump

Yep. Although it was later in his career, he had won the batting title the previous year.

 

[tdawg87]

Kole has been shit for like 600 PA's now. That's no slump. It's a space station.

[Ohtaniland]

Geez wasn’t Williams like 40 years old during his slump. 

[fan_since79]

3 minutes ago, OHTANILAND said:

Geez wasn’t Williams like 40 years old during his slump. 

He hit .293 for the remainder of the 1959 season with a .908 OPS, then .316 with a 1.096 OPS in his final year at age 41.

And, he had won the batting title at age 39. This was a slump and not the normal age-related decline.

[stormngt]

On 5/5/2018 at 5:15 PM, Lou said:

If we don't have one single guy who can play right field in the entire organization who can put up a WAR better than -0.8 in a month, we might as well blow it up and start over. 

It's not that simplistic.  It's the likelihood of Calhoun producing more than the AAA player in question this point forward.  Calhoun has way more upside than anyone and the floor may not be that much of an improvement.

[stormngt]

13 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Yep. Although it was later in his career, he had won the batting title the previous year.

 

1941 was early in Ted William's career.

[fan_since79]

2 minutes ago, stormngt said:

1941 was early in Ted William's career.

Different post. Still awaiting a guess on that one. 

.194 BA in 20 games, then immortality followed. Not Williams, although he too had a memorable year.

[Lou]

23 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Ted Williams would have agreed.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=willite01&t=b&year=1959#2077-2102-sum:batting_gamelogs

lol

talk about comparing apples to aardvarks 

[Lou]

7 minutes ago, stormngt said:

I tr s not that simplistic.  It's the likelihood of Calhoun producing more than the AAA player in question this point forward.  Calhoun has way more upside than anyone and the floor may not be that much of an improvement.

I don't care about upside.

i care about who would be playing better right now.

Calhoun's OPS+ is now 13 points higher than mine. 

 

[Pablo]

26 minutes ago, Lou said:

In that case, I took back my LIKE 

....fickle....

 

[JarsOfClay]

3 hours ago, stormngt said:

Go look at his game logs.  Cowart played almost every game for about a month straight in July and early August.

k i just checked the logs and you are right he did start almost every game from July 25 to August 10. But the angels only faced 1 lefty during that time period and Cowart went 3-4 against him. 

He got a day off on Aug 11 against Sea (Lefty Marco Gonzales)

He played August 12th (Right handed starting pitcher)

He got another day off Aug 13 against Sea (Lefty Ariel Miranda)

Team day off Aug 14 - Benched again on August 15th against the Nats (Lefty Gio Gonzalez)

And the platoon continued from there for pretty much the rest of the season.

 

[Angelsjunky]

It doesn't hurt to call Blash up and give him some starts, see what he can do. This is the time of year you start looking at your holes, figuring out what needs to be filled or not (resist, tdawg). Kole is obviously a big gaping orifice that needs to be tended to, and there's a big black dude named Jabari that looks like the man for the job.

OK, I didn't resist.

[Stradling]

I go the other direction with it AJ.  The team is winning, keep playing Kole.  If he doesn’t turn it around in the next month or so, then you fill that hole with a trade, not with Jabari Blash.  You bring up Blash if you have an injury, not because you think he is an upgrade.  This team has playoff aspirations, you don’t do that with a starting RF of Blash.  

[stormngt]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

I don't care about upside.

i care about who would be playing better right now.

Calhoun's OPS+ is now 13 points higher than mine. 

 

We have a lot of baseball left.  We want someone who will play the best through October. The one playing best in May is not necessarily the one who is going to play the best May through October.  That's why you have the balance the likelihood of Calhoun playing to his potential from now until the end bnbof the season with AAA replacement players performance from now until the end of the season.  It's not an easy call for the team.

[stormngt]

2 hours ago, JarsOfClay said:

k i just checked the logs and you are right he did start almost every game from July 25 to August 10. But the angels only faced 1 lefty during that time period and Cowart went 3-4 against him. 

He got a day off on Aug 11 against Sea (Lefty Marco Gonzales)

He played August 12th (Right handed starting pitcher)

He got another day off Aug 13 against Sea (Lefty Ariel Miranda)

Team day off Aug 14 - Benched again on August 15th against the Nats (Lefty Gio Gonzalez)

And the platoon continued from there for pretty much the rest of the season.

 

I dont care about the platoon.  How did he play during that stretched where he played almost every game.

[Angelsjunky]

22 minutes ago, SuperTroopers said:

I go the other direction with it AJ.  The team is winning, keep playing Kole.  If he doesn’t turn it around in the next month or so, then you fill that hole with a trade, not with Jabari Blash.  You bring up Blash if you have an injury, not because you think he is an upgrade.  This team has playoff aspirations, you don’t do that with a starting RF of Blash.  

Sure, but why not see what Blash can do right now? Platoon them.

[Stradling]

Just now, Angelsjunky said:

Sure, but why not see what Blash can do right now? Platoon them.

Because Blash can’t play CF.  

[Angelsjunky]

1 minute ago, SuperTroopers said:

Because Blash can’t play CF.  

OK, fair enough. 

[DMVol]

 

14 minutes ago, SuperTroopers said:

Because Blash can’t play CF.  

I think Calhoun could, as a back up....Not sure but I think he played some CF in the minors....

[Torridd]

Would someone break down a general Calhoun at bat? I don't see the Angels much. I'm also wondering what management is potentially saying to him. You know he's trying, but this doesn't make any sense. You have to assume he isn't hurt. 

[Spirit]

15 hours ago, nate said:

@Geoff please work your photoshop magic to make this say Bench Please.

thx

 

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